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October 06, 2004

Debate Round-Up

From what I can see from Allah, Who Is All-Wise, it looks to me like Cheney won.

posted by Ace at 02:57 AM

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Ace--

Not according to Andrew Sullivan.

http://garfieldridge.blogspot.com/2004/10/andrew-sullivan-boy-was-i-ever-wrong.html

Cheers,
Dave
Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on October 6, 2004 03:12 AM

You know, that one was so goofy, even I had to just link it and laugh at it and I'm probably second to Ace in Sullivan bashing.

Ace will probably surprise me but seriously, how do you make it anymore comical than by just making the whole post a list of his quotes tonight?

"Bush supporters were particularly emphatic that Cheney won big. That makes sense to me psychologically - and it may help explain why so many conservatives viewed it as a huge Cheney win. They need to believe that right now, to keep their spirits up after last Thursday."

Projection is so fun to watch, heh.

Posted by: Elric on October 6, 2004 03:43 AM

I concurr, Cheney rocked...hard....

I'm only wondering how the 'never met you before' snippet will play out given that he has 'met' Edwards before.

Of course, it's a little bit awkward to refute the argument by suggesting that you met once.....three and a half years ago at a prayer breakfast.

Posted by: DelphiGuy on October 6, 2004 04:02 AM

I can hardly wait for Ace's take on Roadkill Sully's debate coverage!

(By the by, where does one get a decent view of roadkill whilst bicycling around DC or the balmy beaches of P-Town? Perhaps the hammock is closer to the highway than any of us knew.)

Posted by: Sean M. on October 6, 2004 06:37 AM

The absolute best part of Sully's "argument" was this telling admission:

I watched the debate again with a crowd of college students, at Ursinus College in Pennsylvania. Maybe their flummoxed response to Cheney and obvious rapport with Edwards influenced my take.

I'm not one to make cheap cracks about how Sully, surrounded by a gaggle of college students, might have his view of the debate colored by his desire to agree with that big bear of a redshirt freshman who alternates his Cheney-as-roadkill jokes with sly glances in Sully's direction. No, I would never suggest such a thing.

Posted by: Josh on October 6, 2004 07:46 AM

I don't need any 'pundit' to tell me what to think; I live behind my own eyes.

Cheney took a smirking, giggling ambulance-chaser to the woodshed and opened up a big ol' can of whoop-ass on him. Edwards fumbled, hammered his tired old left-wing lies, and made several "mistakes," all the while giggling and winking at the moderator ("Ah know y'all will forgive me 'cos Ah'm CUTE.")

Not all that cute, Johnny.

Note Edwards' rapid blink rate. Consider the fact that psychologists tell us that rapid blink rate is one of the signs of lying. Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: Sailor Kenshin on October 6, 2004 09:20 AM

I had to turn it off after 20 minutes, I got so sick of hearing John-Boys inane prattle. But Cheney most certainly spanked him like a little bitch, at least during the parts I did manage to sit through. I have to say I wish we could see Cheney debate these douche bags more often. His soft-spoken cut to the bone style is so effective against that damn giggling school girl liberal crap. I actually felt bad for edwards , he looked like a dumb redneck in a middle school spelling B. All that crap where he was giggling at the moderator and exclaiming "AW SHUCKS I DUN BROKE DEM RULES AGIN DINT I?" it was just horrific to watch. Truly a sad moment for southerners everywhere.

Posted by: Marty on October 6, 2004 09:28 AM

Two things. Closing arguments. Edwards was like one of those guys on late night TV talking about "If you've been hurt on the job...mesothelioma...blah.blah.blah."...what do you call 'em...oh yeah. FUCKING TRIAL LAWYERS.

Very fake. Very toothy. But OOOOHHHH that hair.

She's a lady. WOOAAH..WOOOAH..WOOAHH She's a laday.

Sorry. And the other. John-John has the most feminine hands I've EVER scene on a man. I wouldn't do him or anything. Just sayin'.

OK maybe I'd do him. But I'd definitely have to drive.

Posted by: sentinel on October 6, 2004 09:33 AM

It would seem to me that based on everyones take on Edwards, we can agree on one thing: As huge an asswhooping as Cheney Delivered, it might not have been so bad if Edwards hadn't been so... himself.

Posted by: Brian B on October 6, 2004 11:01 AM

Ace, you gotta check this out. While doing a round-up of liberal bloggers, I saw that Atrios is calling Cheney a liar because of the "your hometown newspaper" line. I did some reseaerch that debunks that steaming pile.

Posted by: Sobek on October 6, 2004 12:09 PM

It's the last two paragraphs, btw.

Posted by: Sobek on October 6, 2004 12:09 PM

Ace,

Andrew Sullivan is unbearable today. Please, please institute the appropriate smackdown only worthy of a blogger of your abilities. I can't believe that people are letting him get away with more projection and baseless ad hominem attacks. I'd send him a letter, but he won't read it because a) there is no money in it to help with his "increasing bandwidth" and b) I'm not heaping praise on him for being a Republican that sympathizes with his "independent" views that go against the "hubris" and "pigheadedness" of the Republican attack machine.

Posted by: doug on October 6, 2004 12:25 PM

All that was left for Cheney to do at the end of the debate was to pull out one of his pant pockets and make Edwards hold it as they walked off the stage....Cheney owned Edwards last night.

If you can't stand up to Howard Dean, how will you stand up to Bin Laden...

I've been Senate President for 3.5 years and this is the first time we've met...

Consistent isn't a word I would use to describe Kerry...

Last night's debate was like watching Ward Clever debate a 20 year old pot smoking college kid with a Che t-shirt on the importance of personal responsibility.

Posted by: WindyCity on October 6, 2004 12:43 PM

I especially admired the way Cheney handled Edward's attempt to bait him with comments about Cheney's lesbian daughter, Cheney politely thanked him for the kind(?) comments about his family and didn't dignify the cheap-shot tactic with a response. Now that's class.

Posted by: Jane on October 6, 2004 01:23 PM

I emailed Sullivan about using a johnkerry.com link. Seriously I gotta ask, does anyone here actually check the head campaign sites or DNC/RNC? Why does he? Heh.

Beyond that, Sullivan is just a waste of time at this point. Although I have it on high authority that Sullivan will soon be receiving emails from "Terry McAulliffe" chastising him for not somehow fitting in "war for oil", "Chimpster", and "bigotracistsexisthomophobefascisthatemongerimperalist" into his fellating of Edwards. Any minute now to steal a phrase :)

Posted by: Elric on October 6, 2004 01:24 PM

It was nice to see the Bush Administration was able to come up with someone able to debate, point out major flaws in Kerry-Edwards, and ably defend Bush's policies.

Posted by: Cedarford on October 6, 2004 02:03 PM

Teresa Heinz-Kerry:

First John, now Edwards
When do I debate Laura?
Now fetch me my drink

Posted by: Johnny Catbird on October 6, 2004 03:47 PM

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