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September 29, 2004
Dan Rather Now Using Fake Emails For News PegIt's unbelievable, but it's true. Even as Dan Rather is being investigated for peddling transparently-sham forged documents, CBS News airs a story using already-debunked emails as the peg upon which to hang its draft-scare story. RatherBiased has the full story. I'll just tease it. Rather introduces a story "reported" by Richard Schlesinger. The "report" features video footage of these emails: which can be read in their entirety here, and which have been thoroughly debunked as the typical dishonest wives'-tale chain letter at FactCheck.org. Contrary to the claims in the email -- promoted by CBS News -- that the Selective Service is upping its budget in anticipation for a draft, the budget is actually flat: The Selective Service Budget has not been increased. The scare story also gets it wrong when it claims the budget for the Selective Service is being increased by $28 million in 2004. In fact, the Selective Service System's budget is flat. Its total operating budget was $26 million in fiscal year 2003 (which ended last Sept. 30), and is $26 million for fiscal 2004 as well. Furthermore, the President is asking for $26 million again for fiscal year 2005, and the Office of Management and Budget actually projects that the agency will shrink in size from 161 employees to 156 next year. That's hardly gearing up for a draft. Furthermore, it is not the Bush Administration, nor anyone actually interested in restoring a draft who has introduced the two "draft bills" in Congress. Democrats "pushing" bills to reinstate a draft, chiefly as a political stunt. Even the Democrats -- or especially the Democrats -- don't want a draft; they are "introducing" bills to reinstate the draft to call attention to whatever the hell it is that animates them these days. The report publishes images of these emails as if they are genuine and their contents can be relied upon. Nowhere in the report does it state that the basic facts "reported" by the emails is in fact completely wrong. It features Bush and Kerry denying any interest in the draft, but then returns to a supposedly "Republican woman" -- aren't they all? -- being unconvinced. After all-- she's got her emails. Emails that CBS News just publically endorsed. Is this just another case of "aggressive journalism," or "journalism happening," as liberal media apologist Richard Cohen claims? posted by Ace at 04:39 AM
CommentsI recall Piere Sallinger (sp?), JFK's press sec., buying into an internet hoax regarding the downing of TWA flight 800 many years ago. I believe he was the first high profile person caught out. Now we have Dan "debunked again" Rather being tripped up by previously discredited emails in yet another fine example of CBS' vaunted research abilities coming up short. A bit of introspection is called for by Dan-o. Posted by: Pigilito on September 29, 2004 06:25 AM
This is journalism at its worst. Failure to rely on primary source documentation for a story is tantamount to National Enquirer standard story writing. Schlesinger and Rather are guilty of scare tactics in the first degree. Punishment is working on next year's psychic predictions for the World Weekly News! Posted by: Woody on September 29, 2004 06:35 AM
I fired off an email to my local affiliate again. The station manager has been a good guy about the whole thing, but I just had to tell him that I can't watch anything on CBS while they run this tabloid crap. I think it's time to get that going again. Posted by: Brett on September 29, 2004 07:55 AM
Someone needs to tip off Gunga Dan that the Post Office is planning to start taxing e-mails at 5 cents a pop. There's a bill (602P) sponsored by Rep. Tony Schnell that would authorize this. Dan needs to set up a face-to-face interview with Mr. Schnell. That would be a scoop that would solve all his problems. Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood on September 29, 2004 08:37 AM
You need your patented - "just when you think it can't get worse..." They didn't really do this did they? It must a hoax. CBS can't be THAT clueless can they? I'm just shaking my head. If scrappleface had posted this item, I'd spike it. Needs to has a modicum of plausibilty to be funny. Posted by: Phil on September 29, 2004 09:54 AM
Beverly Cocco a Republican? Or, a contact for a chapter of an advocacy group called People Against the Draft? http://www.nodraft.info/contact.html Philadelphia Lancaster/Bucks County affiliate: Parents Against the Draft Contact Beverly Cocco, babby61754@comcast.net Posted by: conelrad on September 29, 2004 10:16 AM
CBS really did this. I had the crazy impulse to record CBS Evening News last night (partially to see if any anti-Rather ads ran during breaks), and I was completely blown away. CBS can argue that they didn't know better with Memogate, but there's simply no way to do this report "accidentally." Not only is this a textbook example of biased reporting, but it's practically an insult to journalism itself. Make sure everyone you know hears about this, no matter what their politics. CBS must think we're all vegetables. This is not aggressive journalism; instead, it's regressive journalism. Posted by: UnknownBlogger on September 29, 2004 10:49 AM
The fact that CBS based an evening-news story on a "hoax email" is significant far beyond the obvious indicator of gross bias. Specifically, it shows that the network--far from learning the obvious lesson from Rathergate--has made the *opposite* decision: they feel they can continue running stories that are grossly biased, if not downright deceitful. Anyone who felt that CBS might change after the roasting the network got for using the forged memos should find their "draft" story very sobering. Posted by: sf on September 29, 2004 10:54 AM
Ace-- If you need a nice, handy fact-based argument why a draft is not only not going to happen, but is also unnecessary, see my posting from a few weeks back: http://garfieldridge.blogspot.com/2004/09/edwards-no-military-draft-if-dems-win.html Bottom line: if we need more troops, we'll just spend more money to recruit more troops. The volunteer military before 1991 was significantly larger than it is today; there's no logical reason why we can't recruit more troops today (sure, at the micro-level some people wouldn't look twice at enlisting during a wartime situation-- but they're also the same people you wouldn't want to have serve anyways, in either a volunteer or a draft-based military. A concerted national appeal to patriotism, combined with gobs of cash, will get us a better military than forced conscription would, and do so in the same amount of time. Cheers, Posted by: Dave on September 29, 2004 10:57 AM
I refuse to believe that CBS could actually stoop this low. It's time to show them what the Blogosphere does to liars once again! Posted by: Phange on September 29, 2004 10:59 AM
What's next? An in-depth exposé the cruelty (possibly by known Republicans!) of the "Bonsai Kitten" craze? Or of corruption in African nations related to the multimillion dollar estates left behind by deceased dictators and oil ministers? "And CBS has learned that e-mail correspondence has been sent from Mr. Claudio Kabila, the second son of the late Laurent Kabila Former President of the Democratic Republic of Congo (D.R.C) whose sudden death occurred in January 2001, to nearly every prominent member of Bush's inner circle!" Posted by: David C on September 29, 2004 11:00 AM
Nice to see al-jazeerah has picked this up. Posted by: Mark on September 29, 2004 11:25 AM
CBS, the anti-Snopes You ain't seen nothing yet: What will happen when CBS, in order to "get the story out", fabricates their own internet hoax? (And will they remember to spoof the return address in the email, or just leave it dan@cbs.com?) Posted by: Rich on September 29, 2004 11:52 AM
Tonight, on the CBS Evening News, the story the drug companies don't want you to see... DISC0UNTZ 0N SUPER VIAG@RA! P3NIS ENLARG3MENT PILLZ! Posted by: Sean M. on September 29, 2004 12:50 PM
Dammit, Sean, warn a guy will ya? I was lucky to not have a beverage in my mouth when I read that! Posted by: Brian B on September 29, 2004 01:00 PM
Forget about the original email... go about 3 or 4 replies deep, and check out that one guy's ASCII signature with phone number and stuff... it's awesome! Posted by: Dave on September 29, 2004 01:05 PM
James Woolley of Newshouse News Service already debunked this story a week ago: http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/woolley092704.html My favorite section is that even the anti-war activists are sick of this crap: "That e-mail doesn't die. It's got a lot of inaccuracies in it," said Bill Galvin, a counseling coordinator with the Center on Conscience and War, a conscientious objectors organization in Washington. "We're getting so tired of answering questions about the stupid thing." Posted by: Bill Peschel on September 29, 2004 01:43 PM
At 2:43 EST, access to Ratherbiased is now "Forbidden." Anyone else get this? Posted by: Terry Notus on September 29, 2004 02:46 PM
Ratherbiased's servers are down, but Rathergate is hosting them until they get back up, so try there for news. I mean, not that you would visit any site but this one. (Ace, please don't tell Mr. Tranh!) Posted by: Terry Notus on September 29, 2004 03:19 PM
This is worse than the faked memos! Rathergate is now CBSgate. Viacom (CBS' parent) CEO Sumner Redstone must move NOW to fire Les Moonves, Andy Heyward, Mary Mapes, Jim Schlessenger, the producers involved in this latest piece, other people implicated in this scandal, and Dan Rather. Once Mr. Redstone does that, he should resign, followed by the Viacom board of directors submitting their resignations. This is CBS...the Columbia Bull***t System! Posted by: Jofus on September 29, 2004 04:30 PM
Why not tell the truth to begin with . Posted by: Lorene Maxwell on October 2, 2004 08:58 AM
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