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September 16, 2004

The Michael Moore-Bill Burkett Connection

From the Online Journal article cited by Captain's Quarters:

Burkett was one of five subjects in James Moore's book, "Bush's War for ReElection," and one of the sources for information in the Michael Moore's film "Farenheit 911." He is decorated soldier and recognized military process expert.

I'd like to trash Michael Moore's integrity and professionalism-- but sadly, it's no more shoddy than CBS News'.

posted by Ace at 09:06 PM

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check out Captain for a link to online journal where burkett says he "reassembled" the file.

Posted by: ctob on September 16, 2004 09:12 PM

Man, doesn't anyone actually read the main page?

That's the next article down, ctob. I've got a drudge siren on it and everything.

Posted by: ace on September 16, 2004 10:00 PM

Ace, I'm sure it's also elsewhere on your blog, but some folks may have forgotten that Jim Moore was one of the "experts" -- by virtue of having written his book Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential -- featured in CBS News' first defense of the Killian memos last Friday night. He has zero personal knowledge of Bush, but looks great in a cowboy hat.

By the way, I've belatedly added you to my own blogroll, and want to commend you for all of your recent efforts on Rathergate.

Posted by: Beldar on September 16, 2004 10:31 PM

So now here's the interesting question we may want to speculate on:

Will news networks like CBS soon merely declare openly that they are reporting with a specific political slant? They do that rather openly in many, many other countries, the UK being the best example.

Posted by: Dean Esmay on September 17, 2004 06:10 AM

Ace - no wonder people can't find the important stuff anymore - that whore thing at the top of your page really looks misleading, both about the quality of your site and the implication that since it's dated Sept 17th, that it has something to do with Kerrygate. I've been trying to e-mail you for hours, but it keeps coming back to me.

Posted by: BR on September 17, 2004 10:05 AM

Back to the subject of MICHAEL MOORE and BURKETT:

This (from my earlier post on 9/13) shows how the forged docs are tailor-made to Michael Moore's 7-point checklist which he posted on the net on 11 Feb 04. When did Fahrenheit 911 come out? I never saw it, just heard it was a slam on Bush. Those who did, can be helpful in our sleuthing.

Michael Moore's 7-point checklist posted on Feb 11, 2004 10:49 AM at http://www.calpundit.com/archives/003240.html#102131 (Use your search or find keys for "Michael Moore" – it's about the 3rd time his names comes up.) Burkett, himself, is also a regular poster at this site.

Analysis of Michael Moore's checklist: at Ace of Spaces HQ, http://blog.mu.nu/cgi/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=45480 , see post on September 13, 2004 11:50 AM.

FORGED DOCS MATCH MICHAEL MOORE'S 11 FEB 04 CHECKLIST

The thought came to me that if you want to understand a forger, you have to think like one.

So, what would you do? One would write a checklist. Then one would create or have some flunky create the matching documents.

On 11 Feb 04 Michael Moore posted a 7-point checklist with "questions" attacking Bush at http://www.calpundit.com/archives/003240.html#102131.

Here's a full match of his 7 points with the 6 documents on USA Today's site (which includes the 4 CBS docs) as well as the CBS 60 Minutes" show itself, with the Barnes interview:

MM's #1: "How were you able to jump ahead of 500 other applicants... to Texas Air National Guard... What calls did your father... make on your behalf...".

So the CBS show of 8 Sept 04 answers that by bringing on Barnes, who claims as Lt. Gov. he made those calls. Except it's now been proven, Barnes only became Lt. Gov. many months later.

MM's #2: "Why were you grounded..."

This is then answered in the forgery dated 1 Aug 72, ordering "suspension". Not shown on CBS's show, but on USA Today's site. Part of the same series of forgeries.

MM's #2 cont'd: "...after you either failed your physical or failed to take it in July 1972?"

This is answered in forgery dated 4 May 72 and followed up by forgery dated 1 Aug 72.

MM's #2 cont'd: "The records show that, after the Guard spent years and lots of money training you..."

This is answered in forgery dated 19 May 72 with the line "I advised him of our investment in him..." in paragraph 2.

MM's #2, 3, 4, 5 and 6: These are all accusations of being AWOL and not being in Alabama or Houston during a certain time frame in mid 72 to mid 73.

This is answered in forgeries dated 19 May 72, 1 Aug 72, 24 June 73 and 18 Aug 73.

MM's #7: "How did you get an honorable discharge? What strings were pulled? Who called who?"

This is answered in forgery dated 18 Aug 73 which mentions Staudt (who had already retired the previous year), Hodges, Harris, thus falsely implicating these military personnel, including Lt. Colonel Killian as the alleged author, in falsifying Bush's records.
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Is there anything in the forged docs NOT discussed in Michael Moore's checklist? They seem tailor-made.

As a humorous postscript: Moore's next paragraph after the 7-point checklist says: ..."wanting to see a debate between the general and the deserter." Earlier on that chat site, it was mentioned that Moore was a Gen. Clarke supporter (who was in turn supported by the Clintons). The weirdest quirk is that just two posts above Michael Moore's appears one from someone calling himself "Terry Lenzner" !!! (Probably not the Clinton TL, but so strange how all these old Watergate ghosts are coming back.)

Posted by: BR on September 17, 2004 10:31 AM

I just heard a pundit on Fox say that he believes Rather is 'innocent' of any collusion, because Rather doesn't have the time to do research.he is a reporter, 'not an investigative journalist'and he believes the producer basically gave Rather the report, and he ran with it.
Are we supposed to believe that the all powerful Rather will acquiece to his producer when he has been chomping at the bits for literally years on this issue? I believe Rather weilds (weilded) too much power at CBS and was too hot after this story to be the innocent bystander some other 'journalists' are trying to make him out to be. His statements since the broadcast of the 8th, I think support his stubborn blind eye and his over inflated view of himself and his stories.

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Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held.

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