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September 10, 2004

But What If They Had Been Good Forgeries?

The Fat Guy quotes Arguing with Signposts asking, "How ironic would it be that the entire presidential election could turn on MS Word's maddening Auto-Correct feature?"

And I guess that is a little chuckle-worthy.

Except it's really not.

The mainstream liberal media will print very dubious-looking documents from highly-sketchy people shopped to them by very-dodgy Democratic operatives pretty much whenever they get them.

There is no fact-checking for anti-Republican hit pieces.

This particular forgery got exposed because it was sooooo amateurishly and ineptly done. Only because this forgery was so laughably bad did it get discovered.

But imagine if it had been a better job. And imagine if it had been something really damning about Bush. Still 100% false, and still coming from shady characters and the slimy undergrowth of the DNC, but competently-crafted forgeries.

The mainstream media would be running with the story. They would be running it 24/7. It's would be the focus of every press conference; it would be mentioned every night on the news, even via strained connections to reports having little to do with the "scandal" (as echoes of Abu Ghraib were seen by the press in practically every other political story).

We got lucky on this one guys. True, we had guys like Bill from INDC and LGF and the Powerline guys and those first Freepers who asked questions doing a man's job. But we were lucky that these "documents" were so transparently fraudulent.

The media has claimed the SwiftVets are lying, despite the fact that there's no evidence of that.

And yet this crap? These laughable foreries? They run with it.

Even today.

One of the top stories on Yahoo? This:

Questions Raised About Bush Guard Service

Fri Sep 10, 1:01 AM ET

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON - New documents unearthed in the midst of the presidential campaign fill in some blanks but raise other questions about the sometimes mysterious and spotty story of President Bush (news - web sites)'s military service during Vietnam when he won a coveted spot in the Texas Air National Guard and avoided the war.

Do tell, Terence.

Reviving issues that have shadowed his political career, the documents show Bush ignored a direct order from a superior officer and lost his status as a Texas Air National Guard pilot more than three decades ago because he failed to meet military performance standards and undergo a required physical examination.

They do?

But the authenticity of the memos was questioned Thursday by the son of the late officer who reportedly wrote them. One of the writer's fellow officers and a document expert also said Thursday the documents appear to be forgeries.

Still, the documents marked the second time in days the White House had to backtrack from assertions that all of Bush's records had been released....

Wh-wh-wha...?

What?

What the fuck?

What the fucking fuck?

You just said that experts said they appeared to be forgeries, and now you question why these documents hadn't been released?

Ummm... because they were forgeries?

Does. That. Even. Register?

They also raised the specter that Bush sought favors from higher-ups and that the commander of the Texas Air National Guard wanted to "sugar coat" Bush's record after he was suspended from flying.

Ummm... except, of course, that the documents in question are forgeries.

That minor quibble aside-- yes, the documents do raise this "specter."

...

Kerry, campaigning in Iowa, refused to talk Thursday about the new Bush documents. "That's for the White House to answer," he said in an Associated Press interview. Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "I think you absolutely are seeing a coordinated attack by John Kerry and his surrogates on the president."

Yet, it was the White House — not Kerry's campaign — that distributed four memos from 1972 and 1973 from Lt. Col. Jerry Killian...

Uhhh, the White House "distributed" the faxed documents it got from CBS.

But we now know the Kerry campaign was the actual supplier of the documents to CBS.

But this guy attempts to deflects all blame from Kerry. Why, the White House had the documents! That's proof that they didn't originally come from Kerry, right?

Look at this cocksucker go.

... now deceased, who was the commander of the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron in Houston where Bush served. The White House obtained the memos from CBS News, which said it was convinced of their authenticity, and the White House did not question their accuracy. There was no explanation why the Pentagon (news - web sites) was unable to find the documents on its own.

Ummmm... again, maybe the Pentagon was "unable to find the documents" because, well, see, they're forgeries.

I don't think they have a special records room for forgeries, Terence.

....

Now-- if that's the sort of tale Terence writes after the documents have been proven forgeries, imagine what they'd do in the absence of such smoking-gun evidence of fraud.

Our foe is implacable, ruthless, relentless, and without shame or remorse. We got lucky yesterday, gentlemen-- but the vicious sheep that are the liberal media aren't surrendering just yet.

posted by Ace at 07:28 AM

Comments

"But imagine if it had been a better job. And imagine if it had been something really damning about Bush. Still 100% false, and still coming from shady characters and the slimy undergrowth of the DNC, but competently-crafted forgeries."

I'm sure the only thing that the media and the DNC has learned from this egg on their face is that they'll have to make sure they have better forgeries next time. I'd be willing to bet that this whole devious plan was hatched by someone too young to remember the early 1970's or what technology the Texas ANG had available to it.

I for one will now not only question the timing of the release of all future documents, but also their veracity.

The funny thing about CBS posting these documents was that they posted them in a side-bar entitled "CBSnews.com -- Dig Deeper". There's a graphic there that shows a foot pushing a shovel into the ground. It's ironic that CBS news dug their own credibility grave deeper with the documents posted under that graphic. :)

Posted by: Rudejelly on September 10, 2004 08:08 AM

Ace, I think this guy at Yahoo needs a whistle.

Posted by: Longshanks on September 10, 2004 08:18 AM

Just noticed he's from the AP.

Make that a whistle and a helmet.

Posted by: Longshanks on September 10, 2004 08:23 AM

Yeah. I noted that elsewhere on my blog re: the media running with the story:

http://arguewithsigns.net/mt/archives/002178.html

if not for the blogs, nobody would have picked up on the forgery angle.

Also, this morning I recalled Susan Estrich's famous words about the Democrats needing to "fight dirty." Well, I guess they took her advice, eh?

Posted by: bryan on September 10, 2004 08:29 AM

Ace:

I know we've gone over this before, but these guys will stop at NOTHONG to regain and retain power. The only thing that stops them is the threat of armed insurrection if they cheat too obviously.

Look for overseas absentee ballots to go surprisingly high to Dems, as well as traditional machine politics of boxes of ballots being lost in Red counties and found in Blue ones in states like Iowa, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida.

I used to think I was paranoid, but the Blue Donkey kept kicking my tinfoil hat off.

Posted by: Brett on September 10, 2004 10:03 AM

OOPS!
Preview is my friend /mantra

NOTHONG = NOTHING

But I don't think a thong would stop them either. The imagery did make me violently ill, though.

Posted by: Brett on September 10, 2004 10:05 AM

"I don't think they have a special records room for forgeries, Terence."

Oh, you naive, sweet, silly boy.

ROFL

Posted by: lauraw on September 10, 2004 10:13 AM

Shouldn't Kerry's retardation disqualify him from the WhiteHouse?

Documents have been (loosely) tracked from the DNC to CBS, pretty much proven as fake, and it's for the WhiteHouse to answer?

Yee gads, if the Media weren't so much in their pocket politically they would be ripped to shreds!

Posted by: DelphiGuy on September 10, 2004 10:14 AM

Joshua Michah Avogadro's Number Marhsall had this to say last night:

"But something in all this doesn't fit."

Well, if that's true, I'll take Johnnie Cochran's advice:

WE MUST ACQUIT!

Cheers,
Dave
Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave on September 10, 2004 11:17 AM

Ace,

Wow.

This Fisking pretty much sums up the whole MSM bias-thingy.

Here's an AP report still spinning after the documents at the center of the story have been outed as forgeries.

Hell-O!

Get.A.Fucking.ClueBat.People.

Again, I am confronted, not with cognitive dissonance, but that strange and all-too-unpleasant feeling when confronted with the Bizarro Parallel Universe that never seems to weaken.

Sort of like that cholera I had this week.

Blech.

Posted by: MeTooThen on September 10, 2004 11:20 AM

It's a good thing these people have the collective intelligence of a wedge of cheese, because if they were smart we might be in trouble.

Posted by: Pixy Misa on September 10, 2004 11:35 AM

Posted by: Terry Notus on September 10, 2004 03:03 PM

Some of my, uh, distant relatives, have been certified by the State of Ohio as forgers. (They can be reached c/o Warden, Lima, Ohio.) They want everyone to understand that these "forgeries" were not produced by trained craftsmen. You can expect much better quality, if you should hire experienced labor, after they are released from, uh, current obligations.

Posted by: Bob Hawkins on September 10, 2004 03:05 PM

Great Bob.
1 dozen draft notices from the Viet Cong to one 'John Forbes Kerry' plus notices indicating 'showed up as requested', 'met obligations in Paris', and an effusive letter or two (don't forget solid letterhead) about his performance. Perhaps a fancy metal or three. Oh, and monetary renumeration with accompanying paper trail would be nice.

They should be aged to circa 1973. You'll need to pass 1) no less than 6 document experts, 2) carbon dating, 3) paper fiber analysis, 4) CSI's actors, and probably twice that many other things I haven't thought of. Probably including French Intelligence's analyses. Signatures from Ho Chi Mihn are your problem.

Could I have a price quote?
(SLAP for the humor impaired. The word is spelled J O K E.)

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he touched the plame files, he volleyed softball questions to der fuhrer bush, and lied about being a gay male whore, you guys are the most closeted group of psychos around. you probably have his nudie pics stored in your hard drives... MEHLMAN IS GAY, MCLELLAN IS GAY, GUCKERT/GANNON IS A WHORE, AND BUSH TELLS MEN CONSTANTLY HOW THEY HAVE PRETTY FACES OVER & OVER, you have so much scandal that you make RUSH and his pill addiction look commonplace... pervs...

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oh, and my biggest point - he knew info about this whole CBS/Guard story immediately after it broke, and Sean Hannity (the assclown with the butt ugly head) said "a great washington bureau chief, Jeff Gannon, just emailed me and is going to break this open", how did GANNON KNOW THIS SHIT BEFORE EVERYONE???? BECAUSE THE RETHUGS PLANTED IT ALL... you all need to take off the tin foil and start using the brain God gave you...

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