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September 02, 2004

Andrew Sullivan: "I'm Not Easy to Offend"

"I'm not easy to offend, but this speech was gob-smackingly vile."

So says my longtime pen-pal and former college badmitton partner Andrew Sullivan, evaluating his capacity to be offended, and finding himself to be quite a cool customer in this regard.

I think that's the way we all think of Andrew-- as not easily offended.

When I think of the man who (to tell a secret) actually writes half the posts on this site (tip: me, the real Ace, never played D&D in my life; that dorkwad elf crap is all Andrew), I think of a calm, stoic, almost impassive man; and not at all, let us say, a man prone to twitchy excitability, shrill hyperbole, embarassingly emotional language, or frequent hysterical outbursts.

Not. At. All.

The sort of man who never, ever finds something that outrages him, and tells us all in no uncertain terms about how "vile," "disgusting," "sickening," et al. it all is.

The sort of man who you could easily see playing the Steve McQueen role in a remake of Bullitt, so long as the director would be comfortable with a more understated and laconic performance.

At any rate, here's a quick run-down of Andrew's recent take-no-offense, just-hang-and-chill-with-it postings. The blase ennui practically drips from these posts, I think you'll agree.

"Purple Heart bandages are plain sickening."

"This is an almost seventeenth century piece of public sectarianism and anti-Catholic bigotry. But it's now the Republican mainstream."

"One thought sprang into my mind immediately: what an arrogant jerk."

"I feel sick to my stomach."

" have to say my mind and heart are reeling from these images from the bowels of Abu Ghraib and the thought that worse are yet to come."

"Both are repulsive in different ways."

"I can barely believe that the Catholic hierarchy is doing Karl Rove's work for him. But then, as we have discovered, the current hierarchy is capable of almost anything."

"To describe this deep human need, this conservative impulse, as an "attack" on an institution revered by many homosexuals and their families is itself a piece of callous demonization. And the precedent is chilling."

"Jonah's second point is simply insulting... Conservative opinion on gays ranges from boredom to outright hostility and animus. There are times when I prefer the animus."

"I'm befuddled why he cannot simply apologize. Rumsfeld's blithe assertion that he hadn't even bothered to read the full Taguba report before a major press conference also cannot quite dislodge itself from my consciousness."

"How convenient. Now, merely campaigning for equal marriage rights weakens marriage. So you can blame the fags for the decline of an institution they have had nothing to do with. A million sighs of relief go up from the social conservatives."

"There was no "extremely significant silence" [on Sullivan's part]. Just outrage and a period of reflection. "

"Has this caused me heart-ache? No end. I do indeed feel betrayed, as do many other gay people who trusted this president and paid a price in many ways for supporting him."

"I'm sick of being told that worrying about this is a sign of faint-heartedness in the war."

"It's this blindness that rankles."

"More evidence that many parts of our agricultural industry - even with chickens now - is, with respect to treatment of animals, a moral disgrace.... Just incredible - but perhaps unavoidable in a food industry that often treats animals with contempt and cruelty."

Wait one red hot minute: even with chickens? Even chickens? Wouldn't you guess that, in the heirarchy of food-animals, chickens would be the first to be abused? I don't know why I think that.

Oh yeah, yes I do: because they're fucking chickens.

But anyway, on to the piece de resistance:

"As a believer in free trade, I was offended by steel tariffs; as a federalist, I was appalled by his incursion on states' rights, from marriage to marijuana; as a balanced-budget conservative, I was horrified by the president's insouciance toward deficits and expansion of entitlements..."

That's my best bud-- Andrew "Not Easy to Offend" Sullivan. Just about the calmest, coolest, least emotional cat I know.

Steady as a rock. An emotionally unstable rock with a nervous disorder shrieking hysterically in the grips of a meth-fueled halluciation that its eyes are being devoured by "sinister lobsters."

And who's really, really passionate about gay marriage.

That's the sort of rock I'm talking about.

Unrelated Serendipitous Irony Update: From a different era in Andrew's life, back when the War on Terror was, like, you know, sorta important 'n stuff.

"If National Review could can Coulter, the mainstream left can certainly can Rall. My bet is: they won't. Nothing should be allowed to detract from the war against Bush. Not even elemental decency and taste."

Nothing should be allowed to detract from the war against Bush. How... self-prescient, to coin a clumsy term.


posted by Ace at 03:39 AM
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Good post. That must have taken a while to compile.

Posted by: sonofnixon on September 2, 2004 07:47 AM

Brilliant, Ace. Use "Sweet Loads" Sullivan's own words against him. When are these idiots going to learn that you can't get away with this kind of crap anymore? I appreciate your doing the research so the rest of us don't have to.

Posted by: Dave D on September 2, 2004 08:53 AM

Great post man. It's like "one stop shopping" for mood swings.

I think I'm going to start calling Sully "Bipolar Bear."

Cheers,
Dave
Arlington, Virginia

Posted by: Dave on September 2, 2004 09:22 AM

Very good post.

When I read Sullivan these days I wonder whether he's always been this much of a jackass, and we just never noticed it because we agreed with him before; or whether the gay marriage thing has finally driven him completely barking mad.

Either way, the guy has got to realize that Kerry wants to appease aren't exactly gay marriage supporters.

Posted by: Slubgob on September 2, 2004 09:24 AM

That's what I get for typing too fast. The last sentence should read:

Either way, the guy has got to realize that Kerry won't fight this war and the people he wants to appease aren't exactly gay marriage supporters.

Posted by: Slubgob on September 2, 2004 09:25 AM

Holy crap that post was blistering. I have no doubt it took quite awhile to compile, but then again it's not really that hard to find posts from Sullivan that are shrill. Even gobsmackingly shrill.

Posted by: Rocketeer on September 2, 2004 09:35 AM

Ace,

I read Andrew's blog yesterday afternoon.

After having done so I realized that his reporting on the SwiftVets, the DixieCrats, etc. seemed, well, nuts. Not a shill. Not a hack. Just plain nuts.

Go figure.

And no, I won't go back to read his blog again.

Really.

And I won't make anymore comments about him here or anywhere else.

Posted by: MeTooThen on September 2, 2004 09:53 AM

"there are times when I prefer the animous"- For some reason I found this hilarious.

Posted by: Dman on September 2, 2004 09:55 AM

Excellent.

And from Instapundit:

I suspect the style was a bit offputting to some people who aren't familiar with (old-fashioned) southern politics, since you normally only see someone speak that way in the movies if he's an Elmer Gantry style bad guy. In fact, it's not that way: Many of the old-line Democratic heroes in Tennessee (none of whom were "dixiecrats") spoke that way. I'm too young to have seem anything but the tail end of that generation of politician: people like Ned Ray McWherter, Doug Henry, and John Jay Hooker. But they -- especially John Jay -- could give that kind of a stem-winder too, and it's only bigotry or ignorance that associates that sort of speaking style with racism and nothing else.

Glenn's talking to you, Andy.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos on September 2, 2004 10:30 AM

My mind and my heart are reeling at these revelations.

Posted by: rdbrewer on September 2, 2004 10:43 AM

Quote:
Steady as a rock. A hysterically shrieking rock with a nervous disorder in the grips of a meth-fueled halluciation that its eyes are being devoured by "sinister lobsters."

Positively gob-smacking, and not at all vile, due to its self-evidence.

Posted by: Patton on September 2, 2004 10:49 AM

Glenn's talking to you, Andy

I love it when Reynolds ever-so-lightly chides a fellow blogger. Considering how ridiculously polite he is, it says something that he's willing to go after Sullivan like that.

Posted by: Jeff B. on September 2, 2004 10:52 AM

I'm willing to bet there are a few gushy quotes about Zell Miller buried somewhere in Sullivan's archives, too. "Principled opposition on the left," a "Scoop Jackson Democrats, etc. I'll go dig them up if and when it becomes necessary.

Posted by: Allah on September 2, 2004 11:12 AM

I took Andy off my daily rotation a long time ago. Now he's completely off the list of favorite sites.

Posted by: rdbrewer on September 2, 2004 11:30 AM

Thanks, all. It did take a long time. Sullivan has no search function.

Posted by: ace on September 2, 2004 01:10 PM

I guess knowledge of Zell Miller's Dixiecrat-ism is seared - seared! - into Andrew's memory.

Posted by: Sonetka on September 2, 2004 01:11 PM

Good work, Ace. I still read Sullivan, but now it is to laugh at his meltdown. How can he top his recent posts? Tune in for another episode of Daily Dish. Andrew will sear and sautee Bush -- but will he eat it?

Has the man gone insane or is he now on Soros' payroll?

Posted by: Mark on September 2, 2004 01:32 PM

Andrew Sullivan takes the "im" out of animus


/got nothin'

Posted by: hobgoblin on September 2, 2004 01:46 PM

Not the fisking of Sully's nigh-libelous assault on Zell I was hoping for ... but something even better. Thank you, Ace, for both your wit and your perseverance.

Posted by: Il Padrino on September 2, 2004 02:28 PM

BTW, loved Bipolar Bear's comment on Cheney's speeech.

"Real war-leaders explain defeats and set-backs, they recognize the current situation, they grapple with reality."

I'd sure love to know who Sully thinks qualifies as a "real" war leader, and why. I'd also love to know how he came to that conclusion, given his in-depth understanding of the intricacies of warfare.

Cheers,
Dave
Arlington, Virginia

Posted by: Dave on September 2, 2004 02:34 PM

A thoroughly good post concerning the thin-skinned and hysterical Sullivan.

Did you use google to search for key words or did you actually scan through weeks and weeks of archives? I hope the former.

Posted by: addison on September 2, 2004 04:23 PM

Sullivan's vaunted research skills, honed at The New York Times, are displayed again.

From Congressional Quarterly's Profile of Miller:
"Miller says he is used to alienating his fellow Democrats. As a state senator in the 1960s, he broke with many in his party when he supported keeping the University of Georgia open during integration."

Yeah, a real hard-core Dixiecrat there.

Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood on September 2, 2004 04:39 PM

Jeez, Ace. I feel bad for you, having to comb through his archives of hysterical shriekings to come up with that. [shudder]

Posted by: Sean M. on September 2, 2004 05:34 PM

Yeah, I had to go through them. I'm sure there's a lot better than what I found, but at some point you realize you've read enough about P-Town and his high-school performance of Hamlet.

Posted by: ace on September 2, 2004 05:41 PM

When you're offended by STEEL TARRIFFS, for gods sake, you might be the MOST easily offended person on the planet.

Posted by: Dave on September 2, 2004 05:41 PM

I echo many of the feelings expressed here about Andrew Sullivan. He has really gone off the deep end lately smearing Zell Miller, smearing swift boat vets and actually admiring women. What the heck is going on?

In the past, he has been one of the best, most articulate and staunchest supporters of freedom and liberty. I still respect him based on those tremendous contributions. But there is definitely some turmoil over there. There was a rumor that he was getting out of blogging after the election but he has denied it.

Andrew is a smart guy. He knew G.W. Bush would never support gay marriage. I doubt this is the source of his bitterness. I don't support gay marriage but, if there were anybody who could sway that belief, it would be Andrew.

Something else is going on. Has his site been hijacked? Is he being blackmailed? Is he dying? While I felt anger at first, that has passed and I'm now feeling very concerned about Andrew. Something is not right and I'm in no mood to debate his latest contentions. I want to help him.

Posted by: George on September 3, 2004 01:13 PM

Can Ann Coulter? Phooey. I'd much rather sack her, myself.

- Dave

Posted by: David Powell on September 3, 2004 01:51 PM
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