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June 28, 2004

Criticizing America: Patriotic
Criticizing the Press: Unpatriotic Chilling of Dissent

Dummocrats gets off a good rejoinder to a very whiny reporter.

Just Realized: For some time I've been annoyed at the "dissent is patriotic" bromide.

For one thing, dissent is neither automatically patriotic nor unpatriotic. Being a knee-jerk contrarian doesn't make you a "patriot"; most would say it just makes you a prick.

But the really annoying thing is that this claim seeks to attack the patriotism of those who actually do love their country. "You're not the patriots," the America-Libelers say, "We are. We love America so much we speak nothing but vicious lies about her."

Yeah. You do nothing but bitch and carp at your wife for a year, never once praising her or telling her you love her -- indeed, scorning such confessions of love as "jingoistic" or "fascist" -- and then try convincing her you treat her like a cheap whore because "you just love her so damn much."

I think this article gives the game away, because this so-called liberal patriot demonstrates the natural human reaction when something you actually love is attacked. Reporters love the press, because the press is they themselves. And when the press is attacked, they respond as Press-Patriots, defending the press, attacking those who attack their first and only love.

See, the thing is, reporters, many of us actually feel that same way about this country, and we respond in the same manner to constant attacks on her.

If "dissent and criticism equals love," then you should praise our attacks on the press, because goshdarnit that just shows how much we love the press.


posted by Ace at 04:35 PM
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You know what's funny, the most belligerent liberals I know are the first to fly with "facist" and "jingoist" (as a matter of fact I'll freely admit I'd never heard 'jingoist' used in a sentence that made sense before this guy). I was also struck dumb by reading this post, I just passed this onto about 5 people who know this guy with the caption "who does this remind you of", and Chad was the #1 response every time.

Nuts. Good post btw.

Posted by: fat kid on June 28, 2004 05:06 PM

Yeah, I had a friend who after 9/11 discovered I was a conservative; and took just a few email volleys before he told me that I 'think like a fascist.'

I have been hearing echoes in the press of that same tired old commie crap for three years now, and am getting so sick of it.

I am this close (pinched fingers) to putting a big American flag on my pickup truck and a little bumper sticker that says 'JINGOIST.'

Posted by: lauraw on June 28, 2004 05:34 PM

I would be more tolerant towards liberal "dissent" if they didnt ALWAYS "disagree" or at least counsel appeasement of our enemies.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37156

Posted by: Golden Boy on June 28, 2004 05:51 PM

But you know what? I WANT them to think I am an ignorant knee-jerk patriot. I think I'll just go with the flag and a 'Don't Tread on Me' sticker.

Posted by: lauraw on June 28, 2004 05:53 PM

Brilliant post.

Posted by: Jeff G on June 28, 2004 06:15 PM

Ironic, isn't it, that the title of the editorial raises a valid question (one which, incidentally, I have asked, and in exactly the same terms), while the body of the editorial claims that to ask that very question is to stifle dissent.

So I have to say, the question still needs to be addressed: Fourth Estate or Fifth Column?

Posted by: Brian B on June 28, 2004 06:18 PM

Lauraw - you go, girl!

(Are you single? Please? I need a good patriotic woman!)

Posted by: Dave on June 28, 2004 06:24 PM

Married six years, to a racist chauvinist jingoist fascist Nazi such as yourself.

I have noticed an uptick in the numbers of she-Hitlers like me over the last few years, so don't lose hope. Your dream girl is out there...she probably has a 'W' sticker on her bumper. And a gunrack. Be polite.

Posted by: lauraw on June 28, 2004 07:26 PM

"So I have to say, the question still needs to be addressed: Fourth Estate or Fifth Column?"

Seems to me that they walk a very fine line, and they know it.
That's why they are always pre-emptively defending their patriotism, when nobody's even questioning it. They are so obnoxious about it that nobody in the public eye would dare to push on that nerve.
If anybody so much as insinuates they constitute a fifth column, I can just imagine how they would scream and carry on.
The only thing that would break this subject open is if a journalist were caught actually conspiring with terrorists.

Posted by: lauraw on June 28, 2004 07:51 PM

"Yeah. You do nothing but bitch and carp at your wife for a year, never once praising her or telling her you love her...and then try convincing her you treat her like a cheap whore because "you just love her so damn much."

Damn. The rest of us can go home now. That's a perfect analogy for the media.

(Just occurred to me: you can't have analogy without "anal." heh. Someone tell Wonkette.)

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! on June 28, 2004 08:52 PM
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