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A Tale of Two "Documentaries"Re: The Clinton Chronicles All this might seem silly were it not for the fact that similar scandal-mongering was taken quite seriously during the Clinton years. The notorious 1994 video The Clinton Chronicles tied Bill Clinton to a series of "mysterious" deaths "Since August 1991, an alarming number of Clinton associates have died of unnatural causes," it said and helped spawn a small industry of Internet "Clinton body count" lists. Condemning The Clinton Chronicles and tying its unfounded accusations to the mainstream political opposition became a standard part of White House defense strategy in times of scandal. For example, in her famous "vast right-wing conspiracy" appearance on the Today show in January 1998, then-First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton complained about the "mean-spirited give and take of American politics right now," which included, she said, "accusing my husband of committing murder, of drug running." A few years earlier, Clinton operative George Stephanopoulos, speaking to the Washington Post, angrily said of the president's enemies, "They're accusing him of murders. . . . That's unheard of." The paper reported that Stephanopoulos "senses a conspiracy of sorts a campaign of 'manufactured hate.'" And Bill Clinton himself often mentioned the accusations in an effort to show how unreasonable his opponents had become. "I've been accused of murder and all kinds of things," he said at a 1999 news conference. -- The Weekly Standard Re: Fahrenheit 9-11 Two Thumbs Way Up!-- Siskel & Roeper Winner, Palm d' Or-- Cannes Film Festival It is, all in all, a legitimate abuse of power. -- the dipshit reviewer for the amateur leftist newsletter Slate (along the way he charges "conspiracy!" because the Secret Service were protecting the Saudi Embassy, another case of a movie reviewer assuming he knows stuff because he took twenty credits of film criticism at the Seton Hall School of Communications. He now corrects to admit that, yes, it has long been a Secret Service practice to guard embassies and ambassadors in Washington; but he's still very, very suspicious)
Apparently a schlocky, extremist, dishonest "documentary" is bad when it's about Clinton, but good and useful "counterpropaganda" against Bush. Please explain your objective reasons for preferring the latter while subjecting us to ten years of whining over the former. posted by Ace at 06:11 PM
Comments"Production values" We're talking about people who value style over substance, remember. The right wingers were a bunch of outsiders, while the Great White Whale can draw on the professionals of Hollywood and New York news bureaus. (How does one go about getting all those clips and outtakes, anyway? Can you imagine the outrage if an outtake of Clinton primping for a CNN appearance made it into a VRWC "documentary"?) Posted by: Raoul Ortega on June 25, 2004 06:19 PM
Ummm, nice try, but I don't think that's the reason one is excortiated and the other is feted. Posted by: Ace on June 25, 2004 06:23 PM
"Excoriated"? "Feted"? Those words are too sophisitcated. You're one of them! Posted by: Aaron on June 25, 2004 06:50 PM
Because one accuses a President of murder - that's right, actually killing people to get them out of the way of your quest for power. As bad as our political discourse is getting these says, it's still (at least I hope) going a bit too far to actually attack the man's reputation by calling him a murderer without something more than a conspiracy theory. I'm talking about evidence - either one big smoking gun or a million small ones - not just suspicious statistics. On the other side, it's not like anyone's accusing Bush of murder. They're just saying he colluded with international terrorists who attacked our nation, all for political gain and a manufactured war in Iraq for oil, and in Afghanistan for ... er, someone remind me what greedy capitalist premise we had for that one? The two accusations don't even come close, so do the honest thing and cut the Clintons some slack on this one. Posted by: Aaron on June 25, 2004 06:59 PM
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C'mon, those Hollywood types are all apolitical. They just appreciate the best practioners of their art. They never bring their political beliefs into objectively evaluating such works. Posted by: Raoul Ortega on June 25, 2004 09:05 PM
Aaron, with all due respect, I don't see the difference that you're trying to make. Clinton wasn't accused of murdering anyone (with his own hands). He was accused of being associated with/colluding with folks who were likely responsible for the murders (for his political gain) referenced in the Clinton Chronicals. It was Clinton and his people who said that he was being accused of murder. Bush isn't accused of murdering anyone (with his own hands). He is being accused of being associated with/colluding with folks who murdered 2000+ on 9/11 (somehow for his political gain). Sounds like someone trying to tie a sitting President to the murder of Americans...in both cases. Posted by: Rudejelly on June 28, 2004 10:27 AM
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