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Gallup: Political Polarization Over Bush Most Extreme in HistoryVery interesting stuff. Stuff we've all suspected, but it's nice to get objective numbers for it. Highlights: * The previously most-polarizing political figure was Bill Clinton, natch. But Bill Clinton's partisan gap (the difference between support from his partisans and support from those in the opposite party) was only 60 points in May 1996. Bush's partisan gap is 25% larger, over 70 points of difference. [Yeah, I know, that doesn't seem like quite 25%. But this is what Gallup tells me.] * Bush's 70+-point gap is not only unprecedented for May of a re-election year, but it is unprecedented for any point in a re-election year. No president, dating back to Harry Truman, has had a partisan gap above 70 points in any Gallup Poll in a re-election year. * Prior to Bush, there were only a few times when a majority of one party's supporters strongly approved of a president while a majority of the other disapproved. For example, during the last years of Clinton's presidency, Gallup found a majority of Republicans strongly disapproving of him and a majority of Democrats strongly approving of him, but never did both groups simultaneously exceed 6 in 10. The closest the groups came to matching Bush's current pattern was in March 1999 -- shortly after the Senate acquitted Clinton in his impeachment trial -- when 57% of Republicans strongly disapproved and 73% of Democrats strongly approved of Clinton. This was one of four times (out of nine measurements for Clinton) when a majority of Republicans disapproved of him at the same time a majority of Democrats approved. The only other time Gallup data find a majority of the two parties' supporters holding strong opposing views of the president was in October 1982, when 51% of Republicans strongly approved of Reagan and 54% of Democrats strongly disapproved. * While the polarization in the current president's approval ratings is certainly remarkable, the fact that such a high proportion of either partisan group has such strong opinions is also rare. The only other president to have more than 60% of a partisan group disapproving of him was Richard Nixon in the year of his resignation, when 61% of Democrats strongly disapproved of him. At that time, Nixon had overall job approval ratings below 30%. Presidents who have more than 60% of a partisan group approving of him are typically benefiting from a significant rally event, including: the elder Bush shortly after the Persian Gulf War (91% of Republicans as well as 65% of Democrats strongly approved); Clinton during the height of the impeachment process (a 79% strong approval rating among Democrats shortly after the Monica Lewinsky story broke); and the current president after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks (87% of Republicans strongly approved of Bush in early October 2001). Taken together, the data show that the current political environment is highly unusual. The country experienced a polarization only remotely similar during the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal years. There are good reasons for this, I think. There is Florida 2000, of course. But there's also the fact that Bush has not been afraid to push his agenda hard, and the Democrats have been emboldened to resist just as hard, if not harder. We all know what's going on: The Democrats have staked their political future -- their viability for 20 or more years -- on a disaster in Iraq and in the American economy. They have not been careful to half-support Bush's moves, so that they can take partial credit if good news comes. They have stridently opposed just about everything he's done, so that if there is good news, they will be discredited. They cannot afford, at this point, for America to win in Iraq. Or for America's economy to recover. The stakes of this election, then, are pushing both sides to historic levels of partisanship. But it's particularly vicious on the left, which has, of its own free will, set itself up so that it can only prosper politically should America be beset by misery and disaster. In a way, I can't even blame the left anymore. They may have put themselves into this situation, but however they got there, they're in that situation now. They cannot under any circumstances afford for Bush to preside over the rapidly-growing, super-prosperous, Treasury-enriching 2005-2009 presidential term. And if that means they need terrorist attacks, dead American bodies in Iraq, and Hoovervilles, so be it. They've got to pray for those things. They've left themselves little choice. Even though they opposed the tax cuts which were partly responsible for the new prosperity, they can at least take credit if the economy grows like gangbusters under President John Kerry. It happened under my watch, he will say. This is going to be a watershed election. The consequences of this election will be felt for 20 years. posted by Ace at 08:25 PM
CommentsI've written about this very thing in my blog recently. I actually think that this is the most polarized we've been since the Civil War and, irony of ironies, it's the Democrats creating the split out of a lust for power and the Republicans trying to guide the nation through troubled times. I just hope, and with each passing day this hope seems to get smaller and smaller, that the Democrats don't break the country again like they did in 1860 because they're sore losers who can't stand not having their way all the time. Phoenix Posted by: Phoenix on June 4, 2004 09:07 PM
Don't hold yer breath, Phoenix. What I was going to say has been partially hinted at by Phoenix in a backhanded way. Watch what you believe about all these polls and surveys, Ace - not because I disbelieve polls (though I receive them with a fair serving of sodium chloride), but because they're skewed whenever they claim something as "unprecedented". Statistical polling has only existed since the end of World War II, which means we've never seen polling in the course of a World War, or a war for survival, or a war between civilizations. And if you believe the Turnings theories of Strauss & Howe, what data we do have has only sampled each of the other three kinds of turnings once each. Every poll ever conducted has no historical basis with which to match it against except the poll taken the day before and the day after. In other words, the historical significance of any trend the media wants to tell you about is effectivly el zippo. Everything described in these statistics may or may not be perfectly normal for this kind of situation. We don't know because this is the first time anyone's been able to poll this kind of a situation. We could be looking at statistics that predict George W. Bush will capture 49 states in November, but since we can't look up FDR's poll numbers or Lincoln's poll numbers, we can't tell. And I think I've already heard this somewhere. Posted by: The Black Republican on June 5, 2004 02:12 AM
Aside from being intuitively in agreement with the statistical problem described by TBR, and troubled by the possibility that Phoenix's parallel could come to pass, I'm struck by the apparent inarguability of the statement: "They cannot afford, at this point, for America to win in Iraq. Or for America's economy to recover." Based on the stances taken by the far to try to differentiate themselves from the current administration, I've got to say "True, true." And how can it be possible that the necessity of these unthinkable results will remain hidden from the electorate from now until November 2? What sort of mass hypnosis will be required to continue the facade of "No, we're not anti-American"? Why isn't this basic problem obvious to more than "just us"? Why do I ask so many rhetorical questions? Posted by: Patton on June 5, 2004 03:43 AM
Is Boston 2004 going to be like Chicago 1968? Posted by: Rich on June 5, 2004 08:40 AM
So, Ace, are you making any predictions on who will win? Two months ago I would have said that John F'ing Kerry didn't have a chance in hell. And I still don't think that many people are going to be voting for him. But many, many people are going to be voting AGAINST Bush, and if he doesn't figure out a way to battle the constant barrage of bad publicity from the press (also known as left-wing propaganda), he's going to lose. Posted by: Scout on June 5, 2004 09:41 AM
Scout, I know others may disagree, but I think the trick is quantity over quality (though quality would be nice too). President Bush can make fine speeches (the one at the Air Force academy was excellent). But he needs to be doing this day and night. The way for an idea to become popular, whether the idea is true or false, is constant repetition. The President has the bully pulpit--he should be using it. Go over the heads of the press like Reagan did! Posted by: Smack on June 5, 2004 10:38 AM
I think that the Democrats are going down a slippery slope here. I think some of the things thatthey are doing are close to treason. Did we have politicians saying these kind of things during WWI or WWII? We had pepople against going to war, but no one had the audacity to level these kinds of attacks on a president during a war. If they loose in November, they only have themselves to blame. I still don;t see how anyone can vote for someone who is wishing the countr harm. It is just amazing how gullable people are to the left's control over the media.
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