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Even Joshua Micah Marshall Can't Help But Imagine Chalabi's Been Set-UpOkay. So here's the story: Achmed Chalabi told the Iranians that we had broken one of the most important codes they use for transmitting high-level intelligence orders. So, what did the Iranians then do? They transmitted a message back to Teheran stating that Achmed Chalabi had told them that a certain code and been broken by Americans, and that the Americans were, therefore, reading all traffic in that code. Okay. Fine. But guess which code they used to communicate this incredibly-sensitive information? The very same code that the message was informing Teheran had been broken. Anyone see an, err, problem here? This is almost childlessly transparent. It's obviously disinformation-- sending false information in an insecure code which you know has been broken and is being read by the enemy. In fact, the only thing which makes this somewhat believable is that it's so ludicrously transparent that it's almost too obvious it's disinformation, and therefore, maybe, what the hell?, perhaps it's just a colossal screw-up by the Iranians. I've got no particular love of Achmed Chalabi. But if this is what the CIA thinks is "evidence" against Chalabi, then we've got to clean this agency out from top to bottom. When even left-wing conspiracy-monger and longtime Chalabi-hater Josh Marshall thinks the evidence is hinky, it's time to reconsider how strong the case against Chalabi is. Here's Joshy: A couple thoughts on the charges against Chalabi. Chalabi's advocates are arguing that the case against him simply makes no sense. If Chalabi had told this Iranian in Baghdad that we'd cracked one of their codes, why would he turn around and use that code to inform his masters in Tehran? My answer? Good question. I have no idea. Well. Thanks for clearing that up, O Wise One. He then goes on to argue that this doesn't make any sense, but it's true anyway. posted by Ace at 06:15 PM
CommentsOne possible explanation could be arrogance. The Iranians might have thought that Chalabi was just trying to get in good with them so he could get some info for the US and thus didn't believe him about the US having broken the code. Or, it could be just plain ole stupidity. That well never goes dry for humanity. I'm not saying this is a sure thing (Chalabi being guilty) but I do think that there might be a simpler explanation to all this than smoke and mirror. If it turns out that my thinking is incorrect, I'll be happy to admit it. Phoenix Posted by: Phoenix on June 3, 2004 07:37 PM
Look, they obviously don't know anything about intelligence work. It's an XK Red 27 technique... Posted by: george gaskell on June 3, 2004 07:39 PM
Never attribute to malice what can adquadetely be explained by stupidity, ignorance, or a bad day. As for Marshall, well, blind pigs and truffles, stopped clocks twice a day, etc. Posted by: Mr. Bowen on June 3, 2004 08:18 PM
Never attribute to malice what can adquadetely be explained by stupidity, ignorance, or a bad day. But that rule doesn't apply at all in espionage, where "malice" and deliberate deception are done 6000 times per day. See, espionage agencies really are engaged in illegal conspiracies. That's their raison d'etre. If they weren't conspiring to break the laws of foreign countries, you'd fire the chief. So one isn't a conspiracy-monger to suggest that, gee, maybe when the Iranians transmitted a signal in a code they knew was compromised, maybe the intended it to be read. That kind of thing is done every day. Posted by: ace on June 3, 2004 09:17 PM
Actually, as I said, this was done in such a flabbergastingly ham-handed manner that the only real evidence that this is NOT disinformation is that it so clearly IS. Posted by: ace on June 3, 2004 09:22 PM
Exactly like they said in "A Fish Called Wanda" -- it's a double bluff! Posted by: george gaskell on June 3, 2004 11:06 PM
Is it possible the Iranians were looking to a) get rid of Chalabi and also b) find out if the US had broken their code? Could we have played right into their hands? Posted by: Golden Boy on June 4, 2004 12:06 AM
Is it possible the Iranians were looking to a) get rid of Chalabi and also b) find out if the US had broken their code? Could we have played right into their hands? No. Here's the thing: It's very valuable to know that the enemy has broken a secure code. You can continue using it for low-level intelligence stuff -- just to convince the enemy you still believe it's secure -- while occasionally using to pass them disinformation which is likely to be believed. The Iranians would want to protect their own intelligence coup -- to wit, that they knew the code was broken. Would they want to test to see if the code was broken? Would they want to pass disinformation in the broken code? Yes and yes, but they'd do it without revealing that they knew the code was broken. They could pass any sort of false information likely to provoke some sort of response or comment to uthe US in that code, and then wait to see if a response or comment was forthcoming. It doesn't make sense that they would give up their intelligence asset in the process of doing so. Plus, look, if this crap is true -- that Chalabi told them the code was broken -- then what the hell are they doing telling us that? Why are they exposing their own valuable intelligence agent? Why are they giving up their own secret that they know we're reading their traffic? Why would they test the code's integrity by passing along true information that was so important to them? Posted by: ace on June 4, 2004 01:27 AM
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