a major blood-letting in the Democratic party

Well what he really wants then is another Night of the Long Knives as opposed to Kristallnacht. That would be your proper NAZI analogy. Perhaps Teddy Kennedy can play the role of Ernst Röhm...

There is some serious venom in the comments. I read the majority of them and didn't find many that even remotely questioned the message and policies of the Democratic party.

Want to see real talent? How about a rational conclusion based on total denial.

Yeah, Bush won, despite being hated by everyone because Democratic leadership failed to lead. Don't even consider the possibility that the reason you ran the wrong guy was because you were, I don't know, wrong?

They're turning on themselves. The problem with Democrats over the last 5 years is that they dwell on their arguments as to what is wrong with no consideration as to what should be done. Case in point, an analysis of what's wrong with Democratic Leadership with nary a thought as to what would be right.

Oh, and everyone hates Bush. We're all still on the same page with that, right?

You know what's sad? They think the answer is to move even further to the left. They are just convinced that the average American feels the same way they do, in spite of two decades' worth of electoral results to the contrary.

They move further to the left because extremes are inherently passionate and they feel much better when they rage.

The real point here as that they are climbing back into their 2004 election mindset that what they really need to do is communicate with the American people. After all, they're right about everything and they just need America to realize that. Of course, what they're right about is a technicality.

Besides, the only thing that really matters is what you rage against. So just hate Bush a little more and everything will be alright. You're anger makes you powerful.

No one's going to mention a certain someone's earlier prediction of the natives getting restless?

As I've said for some time, Karl Rove must be paying some of these jackasses a shitload. Either that, or it takes a special type of stupidity to believe the typical Type 1 Mod 0 Leftard rant.

No Bart, no one is going to mention it.

Preach it, sister. You've got me convinced.

I don't believe you.

I spend more time than I should admit messing around on the Huffington Post. They have a couple of columnists who have worked on the Kerry, Gore, etc. campaigns, so I guess they could be considered party strategists. Lately they've been posting on what the Dems need to do to, like, win.

The beauty of it is, they do not have the Slightest. Effing. Clue. why America finds them so unattractive.

Part of me is in total glee over the continuing meltdown of the democrats and their futile attempts to appease their base.

Another part of me is concerned that the GOP will shift even more left and take up the "center", ie continue to spend spend spend like a drunken sailor eating up the "middle".

If a guy like Leeb could get the DNC nomination I would not be concerned, there is a good case for divided government ie Clinton and the stingy GOP, but the the GOP in charge and a president that ignores fiscal concerns, I'm not sure who the bigger losers are.

Well, fine, then.

No more predictions for you.

Except two more:
Carolina and Pittsburgh are going to the Super Bowl, baby!

And Carolina will repeat what they did the last time they went to the Super Bowl.

Baby.

As I've said for some time, Karl Rove must be paying some of these jackasses a shitload.

If I had to, I would. But they're just giving it away. GIVING. Do the little bastards have any idea how much I'd be willing to buy this level of crazy for?

nother part of me is concerned that the GOP will shift even more left and take up the "center", ie continue to spend spend spend like a drunken sailor eating up the "middle".

The only reason to vote for those clowns is national defense. At least they admit there's a war on; the Democrats seeem to think it's some kind of world-wide cops-n-robbers game.

Agreed. It's all about the 'burgh.

And those nasty Primanti sandwiches.

Here's my Superbowl predictions: Enas Yorl will not care who goes to the Superbowl, and the commercials are gonna suck. You heard it here first!

If the comments on that blog are the true voice of the Democrats, Republicans have nothing to worry about. What a bunch of pointless blather and sour grapes.

At least Ace gives us Scarlett Johansen's point of view, and there's always some good gay cowboy talk. Comments head and shoulders above that of Americablog!

I read the majority of them and didn't find many that even remotely questioned the message and policies of the Democratic party.

Um... you must be reading the wrong posts. Criticism #1 across all lefty blogs is that the Democrats have no message whatsoever and their policies are Republican Lite.

Criticism #1 across all lefty blogs is that the Democrats have no message whatsoever and their policies are Republican Lite.

Scar, last time this came up you openly admitted that your own ideal Iraq policy would be the same as Bush's. Only without Bush.

But I digress, those clown shoes look GREAT on you.

I'm trying to predict when the Lefty Blogosphere crackup comes - I'm guessing that the 2008 primaries will include some major Kos vs. Atrios bloodletting.

"Um... you must be reading the wrong posts. Criticism #1 across all lefty blogs is that the Democrats have no message whatsoever and their policies are Republican Lite."

I agree with scarshapedstar on this. Their complaints about the Democratic Party seem to fall in to two categories

1) leadership - ineffective, coopted by the system, etc

2) policies - not progressive enough

Now you can question the effectiveness of their political strategy, but these are not people in love with their party.

Now you can question the effectiveness of their political strategy, but these are not people in love with their party.

Nope. The only tie that binds this coalition of morons together is that they all really hate Bush. A lot.

Criticism #1 across all lefty blogs is that the Democrats have no message whatsoever and their policies are Republican Lite.

Then the left's only sane recourse is to take control of their party, and make it responsive to their core values.

*MMMF*
*tee hee*

MWAAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA
BAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAA

hoooo yeahp.

Nope. The only tie that binds this coalition of morons together is that they all really hate Bush. A lot.

Their sweety, tangy elitism also has a binding effect.

I continued to be amazed by the things they say. As Ace posted before - I'm not a true blue REPUBLICAN like many folks here are. There are a lot of social issues where I'm very out of step with Rebuplican/Conservative positions. However, I marvel at the arrogant elitism of those posters. The open contempt they display for the common citizen really turns me off.

Thanks to Otho Lawrence for the correction.

Ace you cheeky scamp, getting my name wrong again, you did that on purpose didn't you? Bastard.

The open contempt they display for the common citizen really turns me off

Strange isn't it?
For folks who think they are the mainstream, that is.

Ohhh, Jack found a GOODIE.

I'm glad Liberals are not rational and without hatred like we are.

Maybe I'm slow but I've come to realize that the extreme lefty endeavors all seem to have "America" in their moniker... you know like airAmerica, Americablog, and so on and so on. Hmmmmmm it seems to me that they think that they must convince folks of their nationality or their allegiance.

Heee heee heeeheeee!

the ignorant masses have to realize that they have been royally reamed by these people.

I say arm ourselves and storm washington. This peaceful bullshit doesn't work.

We had a leader, we had Howard Dean. And we let the so called liberal media paint him as a banshee with the fake scream tapes.

Biggest bunch of douchebags ever.

Carolina and Pittsburgh are going to the Super Bowl, baby!

Bart, you are a sad little man.

One comment just killed me:

"I am confidant we will get our country back"

in the same sentence that referred to Americans as:

"the ignorant masses"

Sweet tangy elitism with a choice of soup or salad.

geoff, I will get to you later.

First, I'd like to say that it would be funny if some less-scrupulous righties were to visit blogs and, say, encourage the boys and girls to abandon the dems.

Something like: See? We should have voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004. We lost those elections anyway. We could have sent a message to the Democratic Party -- get more like Ralph or screw!

Who's to say we'll win in '08 with these phony gasbags. We should support alternativ candidates until our party returns to Us.

Geoff, really now, did the Broncos look like a good team Saturday? Or did they look like a team who scored 24 out their toal 27 points off turn-overs by a lousy opponent?

Can't disagree with the lousy opponent part, but many of the turnovers were forced. I don't think Pittsburgh is really going to be that tough, although the Broncos often make it look that way.

First, I'd like to say that it would be funny if some less-scrupulous righties were to visit blogs and, say, encourage the boys and girls to abandon the dems.

Bart, excellent idea. We should have a contest to see who gets that perfect mix of arrogance, ignorance, and unhinged rage. The goal is to get a response or amen from the lefties. Here's my submission that I posted over there. How'd I do?

I've HAD IT with this cowardly leadership that refuses to FIGHT BACK!!!!

How long are we going to let the Repukes and their Jebus worshiping Red State rubes drag this country the way of the Germans circa 1940?

If the Democrats are going to stand by and let this happen they are NO BETTER! We should make sure that we push back against this inept leadership and send them a message by voting for Nader or some other 3rd option.

I don't like doing this, but it's the only way now. We're at the abyss! Extreme measures MUST BE TAKEN!!! They must know that we WILL BE HEARD!

I'm missing eggbeater's and tubby poison troll's comments on this thread. (but I do like coming up with an excuse to type their names.)

Busy over at DU I guess.

Warden, lol! Truth to power, baby!

Witless Windbags Whine While Wisdom Wilts

You've got it down very well, Warden.
Just remember to add a quote at the end of your comments. A quote from Nietzsche or Satre will help establish your cred.

If you're feeling really clever, make up some shit by a famous Lefty. It will be your little inside joke.

Communism can not fail. It is the most perfect machine a man can build.

~Karl Marx

As for you, geoff. No talking head has said that they were impressed with the Broncos. Instead, they all agreed New England had a lousy day and the refs were no help. The kicker causing that fumble with his helmet was a fluke. We all know that kickers/punters are just like Feisty, they end up on their asses with their legs in the air waiting for all the action to end.

That little Rocky Mountain bubble you live in is keeping you from what people really think about the Broncos -- they are not that good. Pittsburgh just won in the Dome. They won in the Dome against the best offense in the NFL.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll save it for Sunday. Suffice to say that my prediction varies significantly from yours - we'll see whose accuracy survives intact.

Most of the posts are pretty tame compared to DU, they've really got it turned up to 11 there. The best and most DU like is the anti-moonies post by "Benton", some of his better hits:

In case you haven't been paying attention a conservative is a theocrat, a racist, a fascist, and most all, a false Christian who uses religion to reach their political goals.

What no homophobe? Darn.

No, the problem is that liberals have never faced and stated what conservatism REALLY is.

Yes, if liberals would just face the fact that conservatives are theocrats and racists and fascists, and make this very vocally known, I'm sure that'll help their chances in 2006.

Fuck I hear liberlas say Bush is NOT a conservative. How insane is that? He is the spawn of conservatism. I got news for you, they are breeding much worse than Bush down on the farm. They are just STARTING to destroy our nation, just starting.

Good God I hope so.

Damn, Otho, I can't parodize better than that.

I do like Bart's idea of adding a famous fake quote. Me, I'm using Thomas Jefferson. That way it's double funny.

Well I gave it a go, here's mine:

We're at the abyss! Extreme measures MUST BE TAKEN!!!

Like Nietszche said, he who looks into the abyss becomes a monster. Well the Repugs are the abyss and after 5 years loosing my mind I feel like I’m about to become a fucking monster. We have got to filibuster Scalito! If he gets on the bench, a woman’s right to choose? Gone. Forget buying condoms anymore with Griswald overturned. Gone. Blacks back to the back of the bus. No more Lawrence, and gays will go back to prison. And the shrub will be crowd fascist dictator for life. Turn off the tv, get away from the computer, talk to your friends, your family, time to get serious! this is it people!

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“War, when all’s said and done, is a concrete idea that contains within itself its own destruction and that accomplishes this by an equally concrete dialectic. . . . The essence of war will be realized concretely the day war becomes impossible.”
- Sartre

Otto Lawrence | 01.17.06 - 11:05 pm | #

Got Nietzsche (spelled wrong of course) and Sartre in one post, beat that you fuckers.

Man, don't be crazy, putting effort into what these freaks and geeks are gonna do on their own anyway.

Take it from me. I haven't worked a day in five years.

(A more subtle approach)

I don't get it. I just don't get it.
The Abramoff scandal is getting no air time. At least with Plamegate we had pundits talking about the scandal on every news program. Even FauxNews covered the Plame outing.

Abramoff's republican buddies are getting off scot-free. WTF?

Where are our leaders Pelosi and Reid?
Why aren't they demanding Congressional hearings on all Republicans implicated in the Abramoff scandal.

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Liberty is no excuse for war.

~Thomas Jefferson, 1775

Its these damn lawyers that are the ones who are wrecking jobs in this country these vultures are bleeding that nation dry for its last dollar we need more good tort reform

Is it just me, or are we righties having a lot more fun than the lefties these days? Was the situation reversed in, oh, say, 1997? Were the liberals yukking it up like crazy back then while conservatives choking on their own bile and howling in impotent rage?

Nice to see spurwing's back, by the way.

A more sobering thought is that we are not dealing with little Gandhis, here. Some of the people on the unhinged Left are very angry and desperate for control.

They do not strike me as the type who will sit by peacefully and allow the political winds to change over time. In their minds there is no time to waste. The country is being ruined and can not afford another four years of control by the evil Christian Right.

Violence in the '04 campaign was, I fear, a harbinger of more violence in the future. Cowardly yet destructive tactics will be employed. A more militant political movement will emerge to influence elections. As of now, it looks like we will keep control of Congress after the elections. And things are escalating concerning Iran. This combination equals the Left going ape-shit in '07 and '08. Bush getting a third Court appointment in his second term will be the tipping point. The Left will simply go bezerk.

If they decide to get violent, it will of course hurt their chances at the polls. The only way it could work for them is to sacrifice some of their own -- and I wouldn't put it past them.

All it would take is a few of their truested leaders to incite riots and major disruptions on and around college campuses. If they can force the National Guard or the State Police to respond a la Kent, Ohio, it would be very bad for the Republicans.

Stop worrying about the future. There are much worse things going on in the republic right now - in my home state of NJ.

http://www.leehotti.com/originals.htm

Thank you, steve, for that. Very entertaining/disturbing.

http://www.leehotti.com/originals.htm

I always knew that friggin' aliens would infiltrate us while we had these petty squabbles.

THEY'RE ALREADY HERE!!!! THEY ARE ALREADY HEEERRRREEE!!!!!

Whoa, Dobbin. Them're some orange-lookin' fancy boys you got there.

Pictures of Ace and Allah?

Ok, I feel better. According to the forum at njguido.com, they are not NJ guidos. They are Albanians from Long Island/NYC.

To follow the ongoing phenom check out:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=322041&page=1&pp=20

Its pretty funny, because the board is devoted to Mixed Martial Arts. In other words, they are not very accepting of men who gel, tweeze, wax, fake tan, etc.

I found that through your first link, the comments were great.

However, I have to say, those photoshops on the site sucked incredibly.

The open contempt they display for the common citizen really turns me off.

I've never figured out what this means. I'm no fan of Toby Keith or NASCAR but I doubt 200 other Americans actually are so, technically, I don't see how I am in some sort of mean ol' elitist minority. People make fun of golf, which is a similarly crappy sport, and people make fun of rap music, which is actually more popular than "common" country music, yet there's no finger wagging.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that as you drive down I-65, you really DO hear nothing but country music and see nothing but NASCAR memorabilia on sale at the gas stations. But this area of the country isn't by any stretch of the imagination what I'd call "real" or "common" America. White trash America, sure. But something about having to look at David Duke campaign posters from time to time back home in Louisiana makes me really loathe this particular socioeconomic class.

Scar, last time this came up you openly admitted that your own ideal Iraq policy would be the same as Bush's. Only without Bush.

But I digress, those clown shoes look GREAT on you.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I said I would have done what Bush says he's doing. There's a key difference: I'd do a better job. (Well, okay, I wouldn't have invaded Iraq, but that's a fait accompli.)

Like this classic anecdote from Riverbend:

One of my cousins works in a prominent engineering company in Baghdad- we’ll call the company H. This company is well-known for designing and building bridges all over Iraq. My cousin, a structural engineer, is a bridge freak. He spends hours talking about pillars and trusses and steel structures to anyone who’ll listen.

As May was drawing to a close, his manager told him that someone from the CPA wanted the company to estimate the building costs of replacing the New Diyala Bridge on the South East end of Baghdad. He got his team together, they went out and assessed the damage, decided it wasn’t too extensive, but it would be costly. They did the necessary tests and analyses (mumblings about soil composition and water depth, expansion joints and girders) and came up with a number they tentatively put forward- $300,000. This included new plans and designs, raw materials (quite cheap in Iraq), labor, contractors, travel expenses, etc.

Let’s pretend my cousin is a dolt. Let’s pretend he hasn’t been working with bridges for over 17 years. Let’s pretend he didn’t work on replacing at least 20 of the 133 bridges damaged during the first Gulf War. Let’s pretend he’s wrong and the cost of rebuilding this bridge is four times the number they estimated- let’s pretend it will actually cost $1,200,000. Let’s just use our imagination.

A week later, the New Diyala Bridge contract was given to an American company. This particular company estimated the cost of rebuilding the bridge would be around -- brace yourselves -- $50,000,000!!

I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I submit to you that I would have managed to catch at least one such pooch-screwing of this magnitude over the last three years. Bush sure hasn't. For christ's sake, he's proud of ignoring current events. Doesn't that set off any alarms?

Er -- 200 million other Americans.

Whoever these guys are in the original pics are now thoroughly and internationally humiliated.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I said I would have done what Bush says he's doing. There's a key difference: I'd do a better job.

It's cute how you keep saying this and expect it to be taken seriously.

Especially when you say this:

The open contempt they display for the common citizen really turns me off.

I've never figured out what this means.

And then this:
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that as you drive down I-65, you really DO hear nothing but country music and see nothing but NASCAR memorabilia on sale at the gas stations. But this area of the country isn't by any stretch of the imagination what I'd call "real" or "common" America. White trash America, sure. But something about having to look at David Duke campaign posters from time to time back home in Louisiana makes me really loathe this particular socioeconomic class.

You are a stunning example of cluelessness, wrapped in befuddlement and dipped in ignorance. Bravo, sir! Bravo!

I'm no fan of Toby Keith or NASCAR but I doubt 200 million other Americans actually are so

I don't care for NASCAR either, but it is *the* most popular live sport in America, and the second most-watched televised sport.

I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I submit to you that I would have managed to catch at least one such pooch-screwing of this magnitude over the last three years. Bush sure hasn't.

Well, you wouldn't, because that was happening at a level about 8 paygrades below the Presidency. And the system *has* caught many overbids, frauds, and improper charges.

Are you ever going to say anything meaningful or reflective of researched thought?

Anonymous (Maybe scar?) -

I've posted about it before, but here it goes. I was born in NY, grew up in NJ, mom the classic Manhattan Jew, dad a writer/journalist, got my MBA from NYU. In other words, I'm about as un-South/un-heartland as you can get. I've only lived in NY, NJ, SoCal. I'm not even really into politics - I hang here because Ace was a buddy from college. As I mentioned earlier, in terms of social values I'm very different from many of the people here.

Both when I see liberal posters here and on their own blogs, there is a lot of sneering elitism - typically manifested as follows:

1) Post contains mocking reference to pickups/gunracks, etc in describing Republicans/Conservatives

2) Use of mock hick phrasing - y'all, gubmint, etc

3) Contempt for religious people - I'm an athiest, but I don't use religion as an indicator of intelligence

4) Direct use of "ignorant masses", "the people are too stupid to...", etc

There are more examples.

I'm saying as a person who's vote is in play, this is not the way to attract me. If it turns me off so much, imagine the impact on the people who are actual members of the socio/economic/geographical groups they are mocking.

To a degree it reminds of the people I would meet in NYC who just moved there from Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. They've been in the city all of three months and suddenly they are cosmopolitan snob stalking down about the bridge&tunnel crowd, etc.

A compilation of the abuse the Albanian club kids are taking.

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3JT8SFVUPLFYN3IQ0J3WVJVUIG

Are you ever going to say anything meaningful or reflective of researched thought?

I have to echo this, scar, why are you here? Because you don't bring anything of substance. I mean, Jesus, you just came in here and said the big complaint with the Democrats is that they are Republican Lite.

Then you admitted that, yes, Bush's current Iraq policy is the best one, but YOU would not be stupid and corrupt like Bush. Appealing to the idea that Bush is stupid and corrupt is not an argument and it isn't compelling outside of your circle jerk.

So, the Democrat's problem is that they're only following the Republican lead, which, by the way, is the right one. Okay, then!

Then you express curiosity at how anyone could feel the American Left has contempt for the average American. And then you stereotype a huge swath of America, insult them but defend it by implying since they're not like your buddies in the circlejerk they aren't the average American. They're just white trash. That just makes you look like a stupid, careless bigot.

So I'm guessing you're not here for discussion, and you're sure as hell not here to win hearts and minds.

Are you here to make yourself look good?

Because, brother, if that is what you want, your only saving grace is that you're deluded enough to imagine that revealing what a royally stupid asshole you are looks good.

Kinda ironic that we're getting you over here at the same time Steve posted that crazy fallout from the orange faced kid that thought he looked hotti.

Oh, and by the way, David Duke is truly loathsome. But I wouldn't try to smear anyone by association with him since he's you know, ON YOUR SIDE NOW.

Well, Sortelli - he's an engineering student. At that age they're convinced that they've got it all figured out - I sure was. I like engineering students in general, so I'm really snarking out of disappointment at the evidently low standards for sourcing and argumentation.

We all know that kickers/punters are just like Feisty. They both end up on their asses with their legs in the air waiting for all the action to end.

Bart doesn't get props for that zinger?

You guys suck.

Bart -

Asking for it just uncool. Like standing around with your boys, collars popped, club shirts on, hard looks, etc.

You're better than that. Your attitude should say "Fuck you, I say this shit to amuse myself."

What can I say? On the outside I'm a grown man (tanned, muscular, and trimmed eyebrows), but on the inside I'm a fragile little boy who desperately needs attention and affirmation.

but on the inside I'm a fragile little boy who desperately needs attention and affirmation.

. . . and after Sunday it'll only by worse.

You've got to wonder what Spurwing's motivation is - he doesn't seek communication, he doesn't want to meet chicks, he doesn't write to impress or convince, and he doesn't write for art. He just strafes the site, and the Moving Finger, Having Write, Moves On. A perfect state of "Flow," perhaps.

Late nite typo frenzy: "by" is "be," and "Write" is "Writ."

Well, part of the reason you are ignored is because of your poor communication skills.

Use the common greetins ," wHAt UP my NI99AZZZ." If you want to flirt with Feisty, talk about how much money you make and what kind of car you drive. Make sure she knows about all the other bitches that are in to you.

A little common sense and ettiquette will get you the attention you so desire.

The responses to that pic are great.

1)give me a basball bat, a bottle of JD and lock the doors.

2)first guy looks like a penis face, 2nd guy is some canadian fruit cake, 3rd guy thinks he's hardcore drinking heineken, 4th guy looks like a dirty sanchez, guy on the far right is the only one that looks italian, but could pass as a woman. im not even gonna comment on the fag in the back with a pink shirt

3)wtf is with the hair? Looks like a bukkake aftermath !!

Steve, you did notice that Ace posted your link in the news headline column, didn't you?

Thanks for the heads up - I didn't notice. I've been engrossed exploring this phenomenon.

I've traced forums all through Europe, US, etc latching on to these tools. The thing is blowing up - its liking being there when "All Your Bases" started spreading.

It's funny, because every forum whether car focused, gun focused, martia larts focused, Dutch, English dirtbikers, etc - people have the exact same reactions to these fools..

No Bart, that was a real crude thing to write about Feisty. You owe her an apology.

They are just STARTING to destroy our nation, just starting.

We've only just begun to reign
Tax cuts and promises
A kiss for luck and we're on our way
We've only begun

Steve, any idea if the peeps in the pic know how infamous they have become?