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December 28, 2005

Update on Daughter-Butchering Pakistani: Regrets He Didn't Kill More People

Psychosexual dysfunction as a cultural norm:

Nazir Ahmed appears calm and unrepentant as he recounts how he slit the throats of his three young daughters and their 25-year old stepsister to salvage his family's "honor" — a crime that shocked Pakistan.
The 40-year old laborer, speaking to The Associated Press in police detention as he was being shifted to prison, confessed to just one regret — that he didn't murder the stepsister's alleged lover too.

Hundreds of girls and women are murdered by male relatives each year in this conservative Islamic nation, and rights groups said Wednesday such "honor killings" will only stop when authorities get serious about punishing perpetrators.

The independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said that in more than half of such cases that make it to court, most end with cash settlements paid by relatives to the victims' families, although under a law passed last year, the minimum penalty is 10 years, the maximum death by hanging.

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It is the latest of more than 260 such honor killings documented by the rights commission, mostly from media reports, during the first 11 months of 2005.

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Speaking to AP in the back of police pickup truck late Tuesday as he was shifted to a prison in the city of Multan, Ahmed showed no contrition. Appearing disheveled but composed, he said he killed Muqadas because she had committed adultery, and his daughters because he didn't want them to do the same when they grew up.

He said he bought a butcher's knife and a machete after midday prayers on Friday and hid them in the house where he carried out the killings.

"I thought the younger girls would do what their eldest sister had done, so they should be eliminated," he said, his hands cuffed, his face unshaven. "We are poor people and we have nothing else to protect but our honor."

And some say chivalry is dead.

Despite Ahmed's contention that Muqadas had committed adultery — a claim made by her husband — the rights commission reported that according to local people, Muqadas had fled her husband because he had abused her and forced her to work in a brick-making factory.
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Ahmed, who did not resist arrest, was unrepentant.

"I told the police that I am an honorable father and I slaughtered my dishonored daughter and the three other girls," he said. "I wish that I get a chance to eliminate the boy she ran away with and set his home on fire."

Read the whole thing. It's chilling. And, maybe, given that it's said to have "shocked" Pakistan, perhaps a wakeup call for that culture. Maybe the abused women will be the first to sound the alarms.

Thanks to Allah.

posted by Ace at 02:27 PM

Comments

Is Pakistan shocked over what he did, or that he was arrested?

Posted by: Robert Crawford on December 28, 2005 02:55 PM

Here's an idea - how about these radicals kill ALL their daughters? In a generation, we'd drastically cut down on their numbers.

But, part of me can't let go of the idea that theirs is a society in which women are totally repressed - and obviously the men have some sort of displaced psycho-sexual anger-thing going.

Posted by: carin on December 28, 2005 02:55 PM

"Thanks to Allah," indeed.

Posted by: Russ on December 28, 2005 03:47 PM

"I wish that I get a chance to eliminate the boy she ran away with and set his home on fire."

Two problems with that proposition - 1) you have no pretext to be around while he's sleeping and helpless as you did with your daughter, and 2) if you did manage to somehow catch him asleep, he just might wake up and defend himself - and being male he just might succeed.

Women and child murderers are the same cowardly, skulking, brand of filth the world over, it just so happens that they enjoy a bit more recognition in cultures founded on the principles of the Religion of Peace tm. Go figure.

Posted by: Scott on December 28, 2005 03:56 PM

So does doing this raise your honor level in your community, or does it all just even out due to the initial dishonor? Are his neighbors going to think better of him now, or is it even? Or does it not even even it out and the initial dishonor can only be managed and spun? Is it like annulment?

Not to sound to dehumanizing here, but I'm going to go Wikipedia some Klingon stuff now so I can get straight on this. This kind of crazy requires a sci-fi analog for it to make sense to me.

Posted by: tachyonshyggy on December 28, 2005 05:02 PM

Guys, you should take it easy on Pakistan. This is not exactly a country "on the cutting edge of societal evolution." This story, although a little outside the norm of barbarity one can expect in the developing world, is still a dog-bites-man story.

What I think we should be focusing on is how all of this is George W. Bush's fault. Bush's actions in the Middle East, done at the behest of Grand Vizier Dick Cheney and Minister of War Donald Rumsfeld probably drove this poor guy nuts, on edge and ready to defend the faith from further attacks. His daughter's shameful actions were just the first assault on Islam that he could actually do something about.

And you know what? He didn't appease the evil, he defeated it.

Posted by: EricTheRed21 on December 28, 2005 07:52 PM

When you worship a god that you think finds death by murder a proper punishment for sex with shame, this is what you do.

Posted by: Tom M on December 28, 2005 07:57 PM

HANG HIM FROM THE BACK OF A CAMEL

Posted by: spurwing plover on December 28, 2005 08:46 PM

The murders will ever so slightly reduce Islam's advantage in fertility. I still think we need to work harder to improve our side of the ledger, however.

Posted by: Arafel on December 29, 2005 09:57 PM

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Correction: I wrote that Labour is losing 88% (now 87%) of the seats it is "defending." I think that's wrong. The right way to say it is the seats they are contesting -- that is, they don't necessarily already hold these seats, but they have put up a candidate to run for the seat. It's still very bad but not as bad as losing 87% of the seats they already held.

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🚨ED MILIBAND [a Minister in Starmer's government] SAYS KEIR STARMER WILL RESIGN AS PRIME MINISTER

He has reportedly reassured Labour MP's that Starmer will be resigning following the disastrous results tonight

It's over

"The end of the two party system in the UK" as first the Fake Conservatives and now Labour chooses political suicide rather than simply STOPPING THE INVASION
Incidentally, the only reason this didn't already happen in the US is because of the Very Bad Orange Man (who is right on 85% of all policy calls and extremely, existentially right on 15% of them)

No political party that is NOT also a doomsday religious cult would EVER choose a cataclysmic loss -- and possible extinction as a party -- to support a toxically unpopular favoritism of NON-CITIZEN ILLEGAL MIGRANTS over actual citizen voters.

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If this continues Labour loses 2,148 seats tonight.

That is much worse than the worst case predictions I’ve seen.

Cataclysmic

Update: They've now lost 88% of the seats they're defending. As I mentioned earlier, I think I heard that London will not bail them out, as many of those Labour seats will probably flip to "Muslim Independent" or Green. Detroit's 5am vote will not save them.

Yup, Labour is losing 80% of its seats...

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br> If this continues, Keir Starmer will be out of office next week.

Reform has surged and projected to pick up between 1700-2100 seats.

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Update: Now they've lost 83% of the seats they were defending.

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Update: Reform now up 145, Labour down 98.
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