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December 04, 2005

Open Thread

Topic starters: Jay Feely missed another field goal. The Bengals beat Pittsburgh. Chicago, who I refuse to believe are really any good, will hopefully lose to the Steelers next week.

The Patriots e-d-g-e-d the woeful Jets. I'm going to go out on a limb right now and predict the Patriots will not repeat as Superbowl champions.

Dr. Pat the Quack from The Joe Schmo Show is now a featured performer on Saturday Night Live. She does a good Megan Mullally impression. Otherwise, the show is completely unwatchable. Fred Amisan and Horatio Sanz* are okay, and Seth Meyers seems like he should be funny, but basically they've replaced the last batch of supporting-players-without-a-star with a new group of unknowns, also lacking any real stand-out talent. And the writing is horrible.

*He's also barely on the show, despite being one of the strongest cast members in a pretty weak cast. I think he must have negotiated some contract in which he agrees to be on the show, but only for ten minutes a week. Sweet.

Memo to Tina Fey: You're not nearly as funny or cute as you seem to imagine.

The host last night was Dane Cook, one of the best comics out there, and so at least there was five minutes of funny material (his opening stand up, which of course had nothing to do with the actual show).

How did this show get so bad? And it's been bad, like Charles Rocket/Terry Sweeney era bad, for a long time.

Oh, and: re advertisers' woes-- I see more and more ads incorporating the stars from a show in commercials. They're trying to trick fast-forwarders into watching the commercials, but it doesn't work. Yes, they get you to hit the play button half the time, but as soon as you see what's what, you hit that fast-forward again like a freakin' banshee.


posted by Ace at 10:03 PM
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Do you perhaps mean "Dane Cook"? He is hilarious.

Posted by: Muslihoon on December 4, 2005 10:09 PM

"I don't want to paint with too broad a brush here, but I'm pretty sure AOL users are all retarded pedophiles.

Posted by Dave Munger at December 2, 2005 07:26 PM"

Worth a repost.

Posted by: max on December 4, 2005 10:10 PM

The Bengals beat Pittsburgh. Ugh.

By the way Ace, Pittsburgh has an "h" at the end of it. Cranky people who watched our defeat still insist on being proofreaders.

grrr

Posted by: Lipstick on December 4, 2005 10:13 PM

Hey Max, bite me.

Posted by: teh derb on December 4, 2005 10:20 PM

> Oh, and: re advertisers' woes-- I see more and more ads incorporating the stars from a show in commercials.

That's interesting. It sounds like a return to the original advertising models of the 40's and 50's. I wonder how long it will be before explicit commercial breaks are abandoned altogether, in favor of "And now, we'd like to pause for a moment, to say a word on behalf of the makers of Trojan brand condoms."

Posted by: Guy T. on December 4, 2005 10:24 PM

I'd never heard of Dane Cook before SNL last night, but my reaction when he walked onstage was one of pure visceral hatred. The man was entirely too pleased with himself; you just know that in real life it's impossible to get him to EVER FUCKING SHUT UP.

His bit about flipping the cashew into his mouth with his wang was funny, in principle, but his delivery sucked. Comedy's all about the phrasing.

Posted by: Andrew on December 4, 2005 10:24 PM

> a return to the original advertising models of the 40's and 50's

And by "original" I mean "radio-derived"...

Posted by: Guy T. on December 4, 2005 10:26 PM

"jdwebyshire@aol.com"

And I thought dorks and dwebs weren't allowed in open threads.

I hope we won't see many more of these tonight - Acios might stop giving us open threads if they keep showing up.

Posted by: on December 4, 2005 10:31 PM

Andrew,

I would strongly suggest you look for his two specials on Comedy Central. As far as "pleased with himself," yes, he's pretty confident, but who the hell wants to watch someone who's not?

The guy is hilarious.

Posted by: ace on December 4, 2005 10:32 PM

Lipstick,

Go easy on Ace. Maybe he thought that Cincinnati was playing the Gorillas of Pittsburg State University in Kansas.

Go Bungles. It's fun watching local sports.

Posted by: Dale on December 4, 2005 10:39 PM

Ace,

I don't have cable, so unless the video store has his specials, I'll have to take your word on this. I guess my main problem was that he reminded me of certain people I know who I really can't stand. That's my problem, though.

On a less argumentative note, the Dick Cheney thing was more fun than sex. It's way cool that you let us pull this sort of puerile shit so often.

Posted by: Andrew on December 4, 2005 10:48 PM

Andrew, take a leap of faith and just go buy his new CD. I promise you, you will not be disappointed.

Posted by: Chad on December 4, 2005 10:53 PM

Joe Schmo was so loveable. I hope he gets well-laid by a nice respectable girl everyday for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Feisty on December 4, 2005 10:59 PM

Well, Dale, the Steelers handled the ball like gorillas, so you have a good point.

Posted by: Lipstick on December 4, 2005 11:00 PM

On a less argumentative note, the Dick Cheney thing was more fun than sex.

Are you sure you're doing it right?

Posted by: scott on December 4, 2005 11:00 PM

I think my problem is just that I don't like stand-up too much. I've always found to laughs-to-material ratio way too low. The sort of things that make me laugh are usually random and ridiculous, but stand-up comics usually fall back on well-tread paths like the "Don't you just hate it when..." routine.

In their defense, doing it well is really hard.

Posted by: Andrew on December 4, 2005 11:06 PM

"Are you sure you're doing it right?"

No.

Posted by: Andrew on December 4, 2005 11:07 PM

I think my problem is just that I don't like stand-up too much.

Seconded.

Posted by: Dr. Reo Symes on December 4, 2005 11:08 PM

Andrew, if it's any consolation, I'm with you 100%.

I'm 45 and have totally dropped out of the cultural mainstream, so I've never heard of this guy either, but I'm watching the opening monologue, and I'm asking my wife, "Why are all the cocksuckers in the audience laughing? This shit ain't funny."

And then I watch the next 4 - 5 skits, and there's zero laughs there either. I would start thinking that I'm just getting to be a cranky old bastard, but I laughed my ass off at some of the Dick Cheney shit on here last week.

Posted by: Sticky B on December 4, 2005 11:16 PM

I don't like stand up, not because I don't like the form, but because there have been very few comics since... well, since Seinfeld.

There are about twenty truly funny comics out there, and Cook is one of them.

And yeah, the rest of the SNL show was unwatchable. I said as much.

Posted by: ace on December 4, 2005 11:21 PM

I've caught some of Dane Cook on internet radio. I actually enjoyed it. Problem was, I had to get over how obnoxiously hard that guy was working to 'be cool.'

And I also agree that the problem with Stand Up ain't the form. It's the acts. Seeing Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' as a youngster was probably one of the funniest experiences I'll ever have. We couldn't shut up about it at school, repeating the routines incessantly.

Problem is, I haven't seen anything near that level standup wise, since. And when stand up sucks, it sucks really bad.

Posted by: Dr. Reo Symes on December 4, 2005 11:27 PM

I thought Dave Attell's CD was hilarious. Perhaps this is common ground?

Posted by: Andrew on December 4, 2005 11:31 PM

Still watching SNL? Hasn't been worth watching since the Phil Hartman left the show.

Posted by: yls on December 4, 2005 11:31 PM

I thought the Norm MacDonald/Will Ferrel years were damn good.

Posted by: ace on December 4, 2005 11:35 PM

One thing I notice about SNL that bugs me is each sketch's setting. Everything is about TV. It's a talk show take off, the president giving a TV newconference, an ad take off.

In every sketch, it's written the character is in front of a TV camera and conscious of such.

I just find this odd. Are we that TV centric that SNL can't trust the audience with a sketch that doesn't revolve around the very medium.

Inthe old days, the sketches were set in someone's house. We were watching a strange family or backyard BBQ or in a workplace or something. Do we no longer exist but as accessories to TV?

Just something annoying I noticed.

Posted by: Dr. Reo Symes on December 4, 2005 11:48 PM

Anyone catch Stern on 60 Minutes?
Was it a phony shmooz-fest?

I've been wondering why Stern hasn't produed DVDs from his E! show. He'd make millions $$ from people who want the see all the old E! shows without the censoring/pixelizing.

Posted by: Bart on December 4, 2005 11:54 PM

but I laughed my ass off at some of the Dick Cheney shit on here last week.

That's because it was funny. As one-note Larry the Cable guy says, "I don't care who you are, that's funny right there."

Posted by: Dale on December 4, 2005 11:58 PM

As far as "pleased with himself," yes, he's pretty confident, but who the hell wants to watch someone who's not?

You mean like Woody Allen's stand-up days? Yeah, nothing there at all.

Dane who?

Posted by: VRWC Agent on December 5, 2005 03:58 AM

Dear Ace,

Look into my eyes.....

GO FUCK YOURSELF!

After your comments on the Bears, you are dead to me (and my cock).

Love,
Dick(s)

Posted by: Dick Cheney on December 5, 2005 09:06 AM

Finally...someone acknowledges that Tina Fey is wad.

Posted by: Winston on December 5, 2005 10:01 AM

Sadly for my Bears (and anyone else in that conference), it doesn't look too pretty for anyone out of the NFC this year - think '85 Bears or '89 Niners. It's really not going to matter who we send at this point.

Posted by: The Babaganoosh on December 5, 2005 01:48 PM

SNL has periodic lulls where the writers seem terrified to tell an actual joke for fear that it will not work, so they work hard at setting up amusing situations without delivering any punchlines. The Eddie Murphy years were notable for this, as were the mid-1990s.

Da Bears have a great defense and a miserable offense. That's not enough to succeed in the playoffs.

Posted by: Brainster on December 5, 2005 03:59 PM
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