just don't question his patriotism

remember, it's not treason. it's patriotic to celebrate the lives of murderers

All part of that great big gushy hippie-dippie 'the terrorists were victims, too' philosophy of the morally equivocating left.

Not to sound too old fashioned but...

This is what happens when we allow historic events to be memorialized by abstract art rather than something more straightforward like a statue, plaque etc.

Artists who prefer the abstract as the medium for expressing this kind of thing tend to have a kneejerk hatred for authority and convention - it's kind of a prerequisite for practicing in that medium almost by definition.

And so we have things like the Islamic crescent -ahem- "bowl", WTC "we're sorry world" center, and so forth.

I know it sounds terribly cad-ish of me to say it, but maybe the simplest solution to monuments is to require them to be... simple.

Scott's right, but this is also what happens when we give projects like this to lefty know-nothing postmodern artist motherfuckers who couldn't say a good thing about America under threats of a stout beating.

Why the hell are we having an "artist" design this anyway? We should have a graphic designer or someone who's more on the lines of a contractor rather than "this is my piece of art and I'll make it the way *I* want to".

I think a simple memorial plaque and some trees would be just fine. Somewhere else I read a suggestion of 40 eagle statues, which would be pretty damn cool, too.

I saw this travesty over at Little Green Footballs, and the Lizardoids were talking about expressing their indignation to their Congress critters and the alternative media outlets and such. It would seem this was insufficient in getting this piece of postmodern trash art thrown out in the first place, so I have another proposal. One that might actually work in getting this into the MSM.

Instead of fighting against it, how about we do the same kind of judo move that the GOP did against the Iraq cut-and-run and fight for it?

If we would publicly praise the memorial designers for their tolerance to Islam and point out each and every thing in the design that helps us understand our Muslim brothers and sisters and their devotion to their blessed faith, I bet we could get more attention. Double that if we could get an Islamic organization to publicly praise our fine, tolerant, enlightened memorial designers.

Geeze Ace, I had commented this on your first post about the memorial. You don't even read my comments, do you? *sniff*

;-)

Actually, I did read it. But Error Theory had already sent me the link the previous day (or earlier in the day). It was just on my list of things to get to.

They dishonor the memeories of the flight 93 heros by designing the memeorial in the shape of a cresent becuase the cross offends the wussies at the left-wing ACLU

I wd find four blocks of shit acceptable. Or how about 4 blocks of solidified pig fat?

I like the idea of specific trees planted to memorialize the passengers. I once read a description of a small town WWI memorial where the trees were chosen based on the individual in some way. For instance, an oak for Todd Beamer, for strength. Or perhaps the state tree based on where a given passenger lived. Add a few benches for people to rest and contemplate, a plaque listing the names and significance of the event and a lot of open space.

Earlier today I read a post by the wife of a just deployed servicemember commenting on the visibility of the sky over Ground Zero. She was struck by how open the area felt and how it made her look up - to the heavens. There's a bit of religious feeling for those who want to see it that way but in no way offensive in the process.

I'm old fashioned enough to not want every damn thing to make a 'statement'. Sometimes a memorial should just be a memorial.

This is an OUTRAGE. Time to fire the architect and start over.

You know, they could have done something simple. Western Pennsylvania towns all have some sort of war memorial in the downtown squares that are simple (I grew in W.PA). Why not just a simple structure?? Crescent of Embrace?? BARF!! Post modern art just does't go over to well among the locals, especially if it is designed in the manner that would please a knuckle-dragging Islamist.

I agree with Redhand, the designer should be fired...out of a goddamn cannon. Along with everyone else responsible for hiring that mouthbreather. KISYFM, Keep It Simple You Fucking Morons.

First get rid of this "sacred ground" bullshit. It's not sacred ground, it's just where the plane crashed. If we kept people off land that somebody died on we'd have to declare all of France off-limits...hrmmm.

The "sacred ground" is where the memorial should be. Put in a park, some marble flagstones, some shade trees and benches, and a bronze plaque. Maybe allow each family to commission a statue in honor of their loved one (we can memorialize the hijackers by naming the dumpsters after them).

I'm no landscape engineer, but I figure this can't take more than 8 months or so. In other words if we had stuck with something simple WE WOULD BE FUCKING DONE BY NOW.

In 2020 we can hold a competition among US art students for a statue to commemorate flight 93.

And when we capture OBL we can put him in a C-17, take him up to 30,000 ft., give him an O2 mask (we don't want him dying from hypoxia), and push him out over the crash site.