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July 17, 2005

"Lipstick Lesbian" Rips OBL, Radical Imams

Osama bin Ladin and a lipstick lesbian in the same story. Honestly, I'd have to link it even if it wasn't very good. But it is pretty interesting:

No wonder Irshad Manji has received death threats since appearing on British television: she is a lipstick lesbian, a Muslim and scourge of Islamic leaders, whom she accuses of making excuses about the terror attacks on London. Oh, and she tells ordinary Muslims to “crawl out of their narcissistic shell”. Ouch.

Manji is a glamorous Canadian television presenter whose book, The Trouble with Islam, has made her so famous in America that she won something called the Oprah Winfrey Chutzpah award. Even at a conference in Oxford last week she felt unsafe — despite extra security — with police sifting through “disgusting e-mails” and threats after her appearance on Newsnight.

Doesn’t the violent Muslim minority show Islam is flawed? “I ask myself the same question,” she grimaces. Far from regarding Muslims as oppressed they have a “supremacy complex — and that’s dangerous”. This, she contends, is true even among moderates. “Literalists” who consider the Koran the “perfect manifesto of God” have taken over the mainstream; and far from misreading Islam, as Tony Blair and the Muslim Council of Britain insist, terrorists can find encouragement for murder in the Koran.

Perfect point. One sad irony I've noticed is that Muslim terror-apologists have two main talking points: 1) the US is "arrogant," and 2) "What you don't understand is..."

I've heard "What you don't understand is..." so many times I could vomit. I'm tired of people simultaneously calling me arrogant and then arrogantly explaining to me what I don't know (which, by the way, I've heard before; I just disagree).

A large part of this insanity is fueled by pathological chauvanism and pan-national cultural jingoism... but not on our side, on theirs. They really do believe they are fated to be the inheritors of the earth, and the fact that the US sits as the 400 pound gorilla in the room that won't give up the banana drives them nuts. They're supposed to be the Masters of the Universe; how can it be that infidels seem to be in that position?

As it would take too long to build up the Islamic world economically and technologically to take the world primacy Islamicists have wet dreams about it, they've decided to take a short-cut: just destroy the people, spirit, and economy of the West. They can't bring themselves up, but they have a chance of bringing us down.

All nations or cultures are infected with chauvanism or jingoism. As a proud American, I don't think that's a bad thing. I feel I have more in common with, say, a chauvanistic German than an American who doesn't like being an American and considers himself a "global citizen." The German and I can spar on whose culture or nation is superior (and I always have those three trump cards of Hitler, the Holocaust, and Dresden), whereas I can't say a damn thing to my nominally-American global citizen pal.

However, when one's racial/ethnic/religious jingoism starts taking the form of bombings and terrorism, you've taken it too far.

The underlying problem with Islam, observes Manji, is that far from spiritualising Arabia, it has been infected with the reactionary prejudices of the Middle East: “Colonialism is not the preserve of people with pink skin. What about Islamic imperialism? Eighty per cent of Muslims live outside the Arab world yet all Muslims must bow to Mecca.” Fresh thinking, she contends, is suppressed by ignorant imams; you can see why she has been dubbed “Osama’s worst nightmare ”.

“The good news,” she insists, “is it doesn’t have to be like this.” She wants a reformation in Islam, returning it to its clever, fun-loving roots. “The world’s first ‘feminist’ was an 11th-century Muslim man. Baghdad had one of the first universities in the 9th century; the Spanish ‘Ole!’ comes from ‘Allah’; Islam even gave us the guitar.”

...

If we are at fault for not encouraging Muslims, they fail to “celebrate the precious gift” of British freedom: “Why do they protest against France for making it illegal to wear hijabs, but not against Saudi Arabia for making it illegal not to wear them?”; more Muslims, she contends, have been killed in recent years by fellow Muslims than by westerners.

...

She excuses Blair glossing over violent aspects of Islam as “he is only trying to divert a backlash against Muslims, bless him” but she despises the Muslim Council for not coming clean. “Even if Muslims are only interested in slick PR, it would be a great move to recognise the problem; it would spread trust. And I am not asking them to do anything Jews and Christians haven’t done.”

....

She denounces terrorism and the response to terrorism, which is not sufficiently robust. It is no good, she argues, for respectable Muslims to say “violence is not the Islamic ideal” if violence has become Islamic practice. And she attacks the proposed religious hatred laws, saying: “Society needs people who offend, otherwise there will be no progress.”

Indeed. But can Manji and her followers provoke Muslims into progress?

I say "Yes."

Lipstick lesbians. Is there anything they can't do?


posted by Ace at 02:38 PM
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Nice post - it helps me understand why leftisis find it so easy to condone and defend radical Islam - leftists are also losers trying to pull down winners.

PS - How is Dresden a trump card?

Posted by: max on July 17, 2005 02:49 PM

Lipstick Lesbian should always be followed by a picture of said lesbian.

Posted by: Brass on July 17, 2005 02:57 PM

Really, egregiously off topic, but:

http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com/home.php

Funnay. Make sure to check ou the letters section. A guy was making fun of Tom Cruise because he had panic attacks and takes drugs for them now(much like you Ace).

Posted by: Greg on July 17, 2005 03:08 PM

Max,

Because we leveled it, dude.

Posted by: ace on July 17, 2005 03:30 PM
Lipstick lesbians. Is there anything they can't do?
Well, there certainly are some things that they don't do.
Posted by: on July 17, 2005 03:34 PM

Some people they don't do...

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! on July 17, 2005 03:46 PM

And when they are doing things/people, contrary to some people's fantasies, they rarely let people watch.

Posted by: on July 17, 2005 04:05 PM

Joan, Technically that's incorrect. The female human has a much more fluid sexuality compared to the male humans. Thus it is possible that when a suitable candidate of the opposite sex appears a previously homosexual female may engage in heterosexual sex.
This often occurs with the participation of the other female and aforementioned male.
More informaion can be found in the nature film
Las Vegas' Raunchy Threesomes and the Paris Hilton Sex Tape

Posted by: Iblis on July 17, 2005 04:08 PM

ChauvINISM. ChauvINISM. Not chauvANISM. OK?

Post rubbishy right-wing nonsense if you want to. God knows there is enough of it about; what does one more cranky pararoid site matter? But if you're going to froth at the mouth, try learning to spell first, you hairy knuckled idiot.

Posted by: Phil on July 17, 2005 04:43 PM

Phil,

FYI, there should be a hyphen between hairy and knuckled. Please don't make that mistake again.

Posted by: max on July 17, 2005 04:53 PM

I love it. Ol' Phil has no original ideas but he is a wicked speller. Asshat.

Posted by: BrewFan on July 17, 2005 04:54 PM

http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/aboutirshad.html#photos

Posted by: on July 17, 2005 04:58 PM

Oh go fuck yourself Phil. Why does someone who disagrees with you automatically have to be a hairy knuckled idiot? You just proved the point I was going to post here; the problem with the left today is that in order for their ideas to be valid, they feel the need to invalidate the ideas of others. They are stuck in the zero-sum-game, or, as Covey calls it, "deficiency motivation." And that is precisely the problem with radical Islam (I will NOT say Islam in general, because I have known very open-minded Muslims who could celebrate the achievements of their own culture without feeling the need to blow up mine.)

That's really the rub. They can't get their tiny minds around the concept that it isn't wbout who's right; I can celebrate the greatness of my culture (or cultures, being a typical Heinz 57 American), without feeling the need to tear down someone elses. Radical Islamists actually diminish the achienvements of their culture by needing to destroy our culture in order to make theirs look superior. Leftists want us to believe that we righties are intollerant, but we aren't the ones who have a probem with everybody else's ideas. It's the lefties and Islamists who can't stand the existance of people who dissagree with them.

Get the fuck over yourself and join the club of CIVILIZED people who can celebrate their culture's advantages right along side of people of other cultures who love their own as much as I love mine.

Posted by: Scot on July 17, 2005 04:59 PM

Post rubbishy right-wing nonsense if you want to.

Oh, can he, Phil, pretty please? Is it OK with you?

Do we all have your fucking permission to write what we think, to make arguments, to arrange facts and opinions in ways that criticize you and people you support?

(Did I spell "fucking" right? 'Cause I'd hate to get on Phil's bad side, him having such a razor wit and all.)

Posted by: Phinn on July 17, 2005 05:02 PM

Phil,

I forgot to add "Leftists are fucking losers" you pompous fucking cunt.

Posted by: max on July 17, 2005 05:07 PM

See its trolls like Phil who take a perfectly good lesbian thread and turn it into a flame contest.

I mean for god sakes! LESBIANS you dolt!

But NOOOO. Fine! Since "Phil" insists:

All people are created equal. Not cultures. Western Culture is superior to Muslim culture. Get over your guilt and enjoy the fact that your culture is superior.

Now can we please go back to the truly important discussion of the mating rituals of lesbians. The fate of the world lies in the balance!

Posted by: Iblis on July 17, 2005 05:27 PM

Anything involving lipstick, lesbians, and especially the alliterative combination of the two is newsworthy. I don't think this would go anywhere without the double "l"s

Posted by: Elliot Essman on July 17, 2005 06:25 PM

Lipstick Lesbian should always be followed by a picture of said lesbian.
You'd be disappointed if you saw her. Apparently "lipstick lesbian" means she dresses like a woman, nothing more.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on July 17, 2005 06:34 PM

You'd be disappointed if you saw her

Sort of a younger Camille Paglia by way of Trader Joe's .

Posted by: BumperStickerist on July 17, 2005 06:38 PM

"what does one more cranky pararoid site matter? But if you're going to froth at the mouth, try learning to spell first, you hairy knuckled idiot. "

Phil:

The irony is killing me. But, maybe that just means I'm pararoid.

Posted by: Michael on July 17, 2005 07:40 PM

"...I'm pararoid."

There's a cream for that.
I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: lauraw on July 17, 2005 07:58 PM

Preparation HH?

Posted by: BrewFan on July 17, 2005 08:49 PM

If you want to see what she looks like, her website is here.

Surprisingly, she's Canadian. What's doubly surprising is that she doesn't seem to have bee4n prosecuted under any silly Canadian "hate-speech" laws for her writing.

I've heard her on several talk radio shows (hint hint, ace) and she's pretty cool. Very good at laying out her case for the reform of Islam.

Posted by: Sean M. on July 17, 2005 11:44 PM

Just because someone is a knuckled idiot doesn't automatically mean that he is hairy.

Posted by: triticale on July 18, 2005 01:07 AM

Ever notice that when you say "liptick lesbian" your tongue exactly traces the caresses of......

Oh, sorry, got a bit distracted there. Ummm, Irshad seems to have some talking points that are quite well thought out.

Yeah, and I'm stickin' with that.

Posted by: cthulhu on July 18, 2005 01:29 AM

Nice little interview with a jihadi wannabe. I knew Manson and Eminem were responsible for crap music, I didn't know they were responsible for the London Bombings.

Interview with a tard

Money quotes :

"The evil programs on TV, the music, the literature, the magazines ... are all responsible for the terrorist attacks. People are becoming rebellious because they are against fornication, gambling, alcohol."

"The best thing is to marry a couple of wives and have many children because I think it's wise to increase the population of my umma (people) and raise the number of Muslim members of parliament.

"We want to have more say in Parliament."


As I have read and said many times, this is a war of demographics.

Posted by: Ring on July 18, 2005 02:00 AM

I wonder how many of you would allow her to have the same civil rights as a hetro would. On this site I doubt any of you would.

Posted by: jeff on July 18, 2005 04:08 AM

You'd be surprised at the number of homosexuals who have absolutely no interest in gay "marriage."

Posted by: Megan on July 18, 2005 07:47 AM

fwiw - I gave up on the issue of gay marriage when, 10 years ago, I was roasted on an AOL board for saying "Sure, I'm for gay marriage, so long as if the two get a divorce, one could make the other's life a living hell if they choose to do so.'

Apparently that was way more 'equal' than the gay marriage advocates wanted.

And the answer to Ace's question about Lipstick Lesbians is this: no matter how fleet of foot they are, Lipstick Lesbians can't write their name in the snow

Posted by: BumperStickerist on July 18, 2005 08:27 AM

jeff: Please return to your lair under the bridge.

Posted by: Old Coot on July 18, 2005 08:29 AM

But she already has the same civil rights as anyone else. Just ask the courts in New Jersey.

Posted by: Iblis on July 18, 2005 02:41 PM

Lipstick lesbians. Is there anything they can't do?


For starters...camping and picking up the goddamned check once in awhile.

Posted by: The Ugly American on July 18, 2005 05:43 PM

...no matter how fleet of foot they are, Lipstick Lesbians can't write their name in the snow


Oh yes we can! ; )

Posted by: The Ugly American on July 18, 2005 05:51 PM

I wonder how many of you would allow her to have the same civil rights as a hetro would. On this site I doubt any of you would.

I've got more problem with her being Canadian, than with her being a carpet muncher. Go back under your bridge.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt on July 18, 2005 07:05 PM

TUA,

"Directions:
Pull the extension tube outward from the spout until it locks. "

Dang.

That'd be a nice feature to have on MY unit.

Posted by: Desert Cat on July 19, 2005 02:26 AM

Islam is currently mostly a murderous Satanic Cult and probably always will be. Their history is one of murder, internecine war and conquest amongst themselves and all of their neighbors. Too many Moslems are inherently murderous savages, it comes from the Koran and is as much a part of Islam as is praying five times a day. This fight is the clearest fight between good and evil since 1941.

Posted by: 72VIRGINS on July 19, 2005 11:34 AM

I wonder how many of you would allow her to have the same civil rights as a hetro would. On this site I doubt any of you would.

And this is relevant how?

For the record, by the way, many conservatives (even religous conservatives) are rather libertarian on gay marriage.

So before you make assumptions, do some homework.

Posted by: Slublog on July 19, 2005 11:40 AM

Good comment on Freeper today:

The spiritual tradition of the West, which begins with classic tragedy and continues through St Augustine's Confessions, tells us just the contrary, namely, that one's inner feelings are the problem, not the solution. The West is a construct, the result of a millennium of war against the inner feelings of the barbarian invaders whom Christianity turned into Europeans. Paganism exults in its unchanging, autochthonous character, and glorifies the native impulses of its people; Christianity despises these impulses and attempts to root them out. Western tradition demands that the individual must draw upon something better than one's inner feelings.

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