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June 27, 2005

"Sickening" Attacks on Liberals: Sullivan or Rove, You Make the Call!

1. The decadent Left in its enclaves on the coasts is not dead - and may well mount what amounts to a fifth column.

2. [The terrorists] have good reason to believe that this country is soft, that it has no appetite for the war that has now begun.

3. When the current enemy struck again and again throughout the 1990s, Bill Clinton responded without real credibility, struck back without real endurance, enraged the terrorists without truly hurting them. We are now living with the consequences of his appeasement, and of his refusal to challenge Americans beyond what the polls said they already wanted to do.

4. [Approvingly quoting George Orwell:] "Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me.'''

5. Of course the initial response of left-wing intellectuals to Sept. 11 was one jerking of the collective knee. This was America's fault. From Susan Sontag to Michael Moore, from Noam Chomsky to Edward Said, there was no question that, however awful the attack on the World Trade Center, it was vital to keep attention fixed on the real culprit: the United States. Of the massacre, a Rutgers professor summed up the consensus by informing her students that "we should be aware that, whatever its proximate cause, its ultimate cause is the fascism of U.S. foreign policy over the past many decades." Or as a poster at the demonstrations in Washington last weekend put it, "Amerika, Get a Clue."

6. Leftists would like to pretend that any criticism of their views raises the specter of domestic repression. But in a country with a First Amendment, no suppression from government is likely, and in the citadels of the media and the academy, the far left is actually vastly overrepresented. The real issue, as pointed out this week by Britain's Labour prime minister, is that some on the left have expressed "a hatred of America that shames those that feel it."

And that's just after three google searches.

The answers:

Of course, they're all from Andrew Sullivan.

In Fairness Update: Quotes 5 and 6 are taken from a piece which expresses optimism that "liberals" are beginning to see the light and break from "leftists."

Still, the line separating liberals and leftists is a blurry one. And, further, he's still making the "sickening" charge that liberals were (and remain) conflicted about this war. The piece is titled "The Agony of the Left," and it's about how liberals find themselves torn between an unimaginably evil enemy and the enemy they've grown to love to hate (i.e., the American way and all that).

If You're Better At Googling Than Me... Shoot me any "sickening" attacks on liberals perpetrated by the fascist Sullivan you discover.

PS... In case you don't know this (I'm sure you do, but then, you're all retards) "Fifth Column/ists" is a direct suggest of actual treason. It comes (I think) from the Francoist forces seeking to seize Madrid, and the suggestion that there were four columns of troops outside the city, and a fifth one-- sympathizers, subversives, those willing to taked armed action against their own lawful government -- within the city itself.

Covert enemies of the state, in other words. Traitors.

So honestly, Excitable Andy should spare us the lessons on civility and what makes for "sickening" rhetoric. The only standard I can see here is that it's okay when he indulges in such rhetoric but that it's (wait for it) gob-smackingly vile when anyone else comes close to expressing himself in the hyperbolically emotional and over-the-top ad hominems he does on a regular basis.


posted by Ace at 02:50 PM
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From the hoist on your own petard department:

At andresullivan.com

THE SONTAG AWARD:
Nominees are solicited for statements by public figures uttered in the same spirit as Susan Sontag's post-9/11 preference for the "courage" of Islamist mass murderers as opposed to the "cowardice" of NATO air-pilots over the skies in Iraq. Glib moral equivalence in the war on terror and visceral anti-Americanism are qualities most admired by the judges in this category.

Oh, and shouldn't that be "Sullivan or Rove" in the title of the post?

Posted by: Ayes of Death David on June 27, 2005 03:26 PM

A more efficient way to do this is to scroll through the archives at SullyWatch from late 2001 through mid-2003 or so. It's a hard left site, so I'm sure you'll find all of Andy's digs at liberals chronicled therein.

Posted by: Allah on June 27, 2005 03:43 PM

Whoops! Thanks, it should have been Rove.

For a moment I forgot who was really running this country.

Posted by: ace on June 27, 2005 03:45 PM

Wow, it doesn't take long for you dingers to purge one of your own for not repeating the Rovien message machine.

You still can't distract us from the imperialist quaqmire in Iraq, our destroyed economy and the soon-to-be impeached liar-in-chief:

http://mattstover.blogspot.com/2005/06/reprinted-without-commentary-from.html

Those who are not blinded by Jeebus chickenhaws and the far right message machine should read avove ASAP.

Posted by: Cain the Anti-Neocon on June 27, 2005 03:53 PM

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen comment spam that disagreeable before.

Posted by: Slublog on June 27, 2005 03:56 PM

Those who are not blinded by Jeebus chickenhaws and the far right message machine should read avove ASAP.

No no, not the blinding chickenhaws! They're worse than the dreaded turkey vulturs!

(Sorry for making light of that post, folks, but really, were we supposed to take it seriously?)

Later,
bbeck

Posted by: bbeck on June 27, 2005 04:06 PM

Damn, Cain, STILL with the Jeebus "chickenhaws avove" stuff. Can't you even spellcheck before you send out this tired spam a second time?

Posted by: Rocketeer on June 27, 2005 04:06 PM

Cain remain where you are do not move black helicopters will be there shortly EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE

Posted by: Rovien message machine on June 27, 2005 04:12 PM

I like my chickenhaws sauteed in butter and olive oil with capers.

Posted by: lauraw on June 27, 2005 04:18 PM

Mmmmmmm CHICKENHAWS

Posted by: Homer J. Simpson on June 27, 2005 04:19 PM

ChickenHaws? Is that the prequel to Hee Haw?

Posted by: HowardDevore on June 27, 2005 04:27 PM

No Howard, it was the prequel to Egghaws...or maybe it was the other way around; I'm not sure which came first...

Later,
bbeck

Posted by: bbeck on June 27, 2005 04:37 PM

GROAANNN bbeck....

; )

Posted by: lauraw on June 27, 2005 04:49 PM

LOL. Sorry Laura. Here, have some more capers...:)

Later,
bbeck

Posted by: bbeck on June 27, 2005 05:02 PM

liberals" are beginning to see the light and break from "leftists."

Bullshit, they're trying to make us believe that they're beginning to break from what they call "Leftists," a straw man Liberals have created to "break from" to try to disguise who they really are, i.e., Liberals. They want us to believe they stand for most of the same things conservtives do, but are just al little more "progressive on social issues" than conservatives. They're not fooling anyone but themselves, (something they're very big on anyway) for the public is vastly smarter than Liberals give them credit for. To paraphrase Lincoln:

You can fool some of the conservatives some of the time,
And all of the Liberals all of the time,
But you can't fool all of the conservatives all of the time.

This is just another Liberal attempt to fool us.

Posted by: 72 Hanging Gardens of Babylon on June 27, 2005 05:47 PM

What's with the troll infestation recently? Are they coming from any particular nuthole, or has Ace finally hit the Big Time(tm)?

Posted by: someone on June 27, 2005 06:57 PM

I think Ace is now finally bigger than Al Franken.
So the now Franken is trolling, with all sorts of handles.

Posted by: Iblis on June 27, 2005 07:39 PM

All that "Jebus" crap cuts no capers with me! What the hell are we gonna do about avove?!?!?

Posted by: Claire on June 27, 2005 11:22 PM
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