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April 22, 2005

George Soros' Initiative To Begin a New Age of New-Leftism

As Time magazine would ask, were he a conservative, "Is it good for America?:

George Soros told a carefully vetted gathering of 70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires last weekend that they must be patient if they want to realize long-term political and ideological yields from an expected massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks......building an ideas production line for liberal politicians...refer to themselves as the Phoenix Group...Rob Stein, a veteran of President Bill Clinton’s Commerce Department and of New York investment banking, convened the meeting of venture capitalists, left-leaning moneymen and a select few D.C. strategists on how to seed pro-Democratic think tanks, media outlets and leadership schools...

Senior Democratic National Committee (DNC) officials were quietly briefed about the meeting in recent weeks. DNC Chairman Howard Dean was aware of it... one senior DNC source said the organizers “kept that list [of attendees] kind of tight.”

I guess that doesn't count as "illegal coordination," right? No, let's keep investigating Tom DeLay's golf trips.

Why isn't the right doing this? I know we're in power now, but 1, you have to spend to recruit new talent if you want to stay on top and 2, damnit, if Soros keeps pouring money into liberals, I just might find myself saying, "You know, Nancy Pelosi really does have a point, whatever the hell it is she's talking about."

...The Democracy Alliance will act as a clearinghouse and is expected to channel much of its money to new organizations and existing ones such as John Podesta’s Center for American Progress and David Brock’s Media Matters for America...

Great. Make sure O-Chubb gets kept flush in Filet-O-Fishes while I have to scrimp just to get that cheese on my Whopper.

...

Participants were tight-lipped, saying they wanted to keep media expectations low...

Probably a sound idea. Because this isn't going to work. Because the fundamental problem is that while soft-liberalism has a good amount of popularity, it's still not quite as popular as center-rightism, and, even worse, the Democratic Party is prevented from playing its best game (that is, soft liberalism) by hard left socialists like Soros and Michael Moore.

Other participants included former White House press secretary Mike McCurry and New Democrat Network president Simon osenberg...Ingersoll said funding transparency is a priority, which she said would contrast with some right-wing groups...But transparency was not on display among the Scottsdale participants contacted by The Hill...One source at the DNC with direct knowledge of the agenda said that the Phoenix Group had three specific goals at the outset. It wants to create liberal think tanks, training camps for young progressives and media centers...

“This is bigger than that,” the DNC source said.."

The bigger they are, the more fun it is to laugh at them when they fall on their faces.

Thanks to RCL, who wants to know if the left will finally cop to the "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy" charge.

Or call it a cabal. That sounds more sinister. And the Wiccans will appreciate the hat-tip.


posted by Ace at 10:37 AM
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Maybe Soros will buy Ace of Spades HQ, and assimilate it into the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy. He could be the "blog money" you've been waiting for, Ace.

Posted by: on April 22, 2005 11:16 AM

This is my plan.

I was hoping that someone on the right would pay me off, but those rotten greedy bastards are all hoaring their filthy lucre so that they can fund right-wing coups in Third World shitholes.

How about paying off an agent provocateur closer to home, dipshits?

Posted by: ace on April 22, 2005 11:38 AM

My question about this is isn't it true that places like Heritage sprung up as places for conservative academics to conduct research in favor of left-leaning colleges where their ideologies and opinions would cause them to run into opposition?

I'm still in college, and by conducting that amazing observational skill of opening my fucking eyes and taking a look around me, colleges seem to remain relatively hostile to conservative academics (in the liberal arts anyway), and all too welcoming to liberal ones, no matter how ridiculous they are (Ward Churchill).

I guess my point is that given that the conservative think-tanks were, and some may say still are, one of the few places a conservative, liberal arts academic can find a job and conduct research, are liberals going to want to pass up the prestige of being an associate professor at Harvard or whatever to do the same when they don't have to face the same opposition that conservative academics do to drive them into these think-tanks? I guess if anyone can drive them, it's George "Big Money" Soros...

Posted by: on April 22, 2005 11:41 AM

Ace, the "Is he good for America" line has been in no way restricted to conservatives. If you'll recall that was the tag line on the Michael Moore cover.

Posted by: izzadem on April 22, 2005 11:55 AM

training camps for young progressives

Nice choice of wording.

Posted by: Shawn on April 22, 2005 12:20 PM

Hey! Not all wiccans are hate filled lefties... some of us are hate filled righties!

In fact, next year I'm unveiling the "Hardline Republican Former Marine Wiccans for Christ" booth at Burning Man.

Posted by: Kadnine on April 22, 2005 12:26 PM

Ahem.

To echo Byron York's point, the problem is that the Heritage Foundation and so on are actual research institutes and think tanks. The fact that Republicans frequently use their ideas is why I'm a Repubican.

What Soros is evidently proposing is more spin factories. That won't work. What the left needs are some ideas that don't sound like, "Well, that didn't work, so let's do it some more!" or, "Yes! We're going to throw money at the problem!"

Posted by: Dianna on April 22, 2005 12:34 PM

Ace, if you do find that Nancy Pelosi has a point, it'll be the result of a botched face lift.

Posted by: Mikey on April 22, 2005 12:47 PM

To be serious, though, I thought they already had think-tanks, training camps for young progressives and media centers. Aren't they the Ivy League Schools and ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/CNN/PBS/NPR?

Posted by: Mikey on April 22, 2005 12:49 PM
I was hoping that someone on the right would pay me off, but those rotten greedy bastards are all hoaring their filthy lucre so that they can fund right-wing coups in Third World shitholes.

Where the fuck is Scaife, anyway, with the right-wing blog seed money? That was always the one fantasy I held out a glimmer of hope for -- that one day Murdoch or some other conservative fat cat would swoop in and salary the top 40 right-wing sites or whatever. Nothing exorbitant, mind you; 50K/yr. would have been plenty.

Alas, like Pat O'Brien, I don't do this for a living.

Posted by: Allah on April 22, 2005 12:59 PM

Maybe we should go on strike?

They're Republicans, so they subscribe to the notion that of course there's no need to pay someone more than they demand, and if they're willing to take nothing at all, so much the better.

So maybe all the rightwing blogs should call a strike and get Scaife to pony up a little jack. Call it a "stipend." Whatever. I need my monies, and I need my monies now.

Posted by: ace on April 22, 2005 01:09 PM

Scaife successfully turned Clinton's two terms into eight years of sleazoid hell for Bill and everybody else in the country. He got a good return on his investment and moved on.

Soros has nothing to show for all the money he's spent, but he thinks the solution to the problem is to throw even more money at it. That's more of a liberal thing. For that matter, so is not moving on.

Posted by: utron on April 22, 2005 01:10 PM

Scaife successfully turned Clinton's two terms into eight years of sleazoid hell for Bill and everybody else in the country.

Doesn't get me any closer to owning a Ducati.

Posted by: ace on April 22, 2005 01:12 PM
So maybe all the rightwing blogs should call a strike

It amazes me still that no one -- literally no one, as I recall -- got picked up after Rathergate. How do you watch something like that happen and decide that your money's better spent producing a halfwitted attack ad that'll run on TV for two weeks? For the same cost you could support four or five bloggers for a year. Hasn't Charles Johnson or Captain Ed earned his fucking wings yet?

The irony is, whenever a right-wing blogger does make waves, the Media Matters douchepails start screaming about a right-wing message machine whose moneyed tentacles extend throughout blogdom. If only.

Posted by: Allah on April 22, 2005 01:28 PM

Seventy liberal millionaires and billionares who don't have anything better to do with their money than fund liberal political organizations, huh?

So much for the "rich paying their fair share" and all that rot.

Not that I'm advocating, you know, tax raises on the rich, but after hearing for about a bazillion years from liberals how the rich just fritter away their money instead od feeding poor people and providing health care and all that, I can't help but wonder where the liberal criticism is for these guys.

Posted by: Jimmie on April 22, 2005 01:40 PM

Allah,

Dude, you're preaching to the choir.

Posted by: ace on April 22, 2005 01:46 PM

Right.

I think Glenn Reynolds gets a little smack for his MSNBC column and such. Plus the POwerliners now do a rotation at the Weekly Standard, and I expect that column pays pocket change now and then. Some bloggers were picked up on campaigns, and some get to do media appearances which are compensated. And if you have a book coming out, and a loyal blog readership, why not flog it on your blog and increase your sales? (The book that is, not like Gannon...)

No one's making a living at this on the right, as far as I can tell...but as far as a hobby that actually brings in some scratch instead of sucking it up, well, it looks like blogging has some possibilities.

Posted by: See-Dubya on April 22, 2005 01:48 PM

Ace, if you're really hell bent on laying your hands on that crazy blog money, all you have to do is get off this integrity kick and place your talents at the disposal of the reality-based community. Those plump Soros checks will start rolling your way in no time.

And speaking of plump, imagine the excitement of those weekly "talking points" sessions with O-Dubya. Just the two of you, crammed into a corner booth at Red Lobster, where you can watch him gorging on the All-U-Can-Eat Admiral's Feast like Mr. Creosote. You'll be struggling to control your nausea as piles of fried clams disappear into his gullet, washed down by tall glasses of buttermilk that dribble thickly down his quivering, multiple chins...

It all depends on how badly you want that Ducati, I guess.

Posted by: utron on April 22, 2005 02:10 PM

I would definitely buy a book from Ace, something along the lines of pointing out the stupidity of politics and such.

The man is a comedic god in print, but alas he sounds like a socially retarded child molester who has just woken up on radio, so I don't hold much hope there unless the Citizen Report was a deliberate crash and burn to entice listeners to tune into your show to take pleasure in your misery.

Only joking Ace, but seriously, will you be providing a link to replays of the as yet unnamed radio show? I could then replay it to myself on those days I feel like an absolute failure.

Posted by: DelphiGuy on April 22, 2005 02:20 PM

Hmmm...and all his time th fine folks at Media Matters claim they have nothing to do with Soros. Chubbs even wrote to Glenn Reynolds a letter denying such a connection.

Link: http://instapundit.com/archives/020393.php

So while Soros might not directly write the check to David Brock, let's not pretend that Soros is not funding these hacks.

Posted by: Mark on April 22, 2005 02:59 PM

Is it just me, or is the "Phoenix Group" described in this article the same group that hired McGyver as a freelance troubleshooter back in the day?

Ace, a Ducati? I always pictured you as more of a Moto Guzzi fella.

Posted by: Russ from Winterset on April 22, 2005 08:34 PM
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