Well I missed it anyhoo, I guess I lucked out.

I got me a t-shirt today and it is in fact tasteful, cool, and classy...just what one would expect from Ace's site. A velvet smoking jacket for the aughties; or perhaps Velveeta.

Just said it on the other thread, but I'll repeat it here: most of y'all need to chill the fuck out about this.

You're beginning to sound as bitchy and effeminate as me.

I mean, Christ, what's next? Slam books with Goldstein and Ardolino featuring prominently?

By the way, WHERE THE FUCK IS MY SHIRT YOU DIRTY SWINDLER?

Hey, I'm tryin' to calm everything down.

That's me. The voice of reason. A man of peace.

And your t-shirt is on it's way, JeffB. There apparently was a bit of snag with the women's baby-t's, so hang in there, sweetass.

So... you have to order a shirt to be called a "sweetass," huh?

Figures.

Keep in mind, Rightwingsparkle - he doesn't know why he's acting like this; he doesn't do this for a living.

I really don't get what happened. I heard most of the show and can't imagine what these people heard that I didn't. Everyone needs to get a grip.

My shirt just arrived, and I have to say that it's pretty damned cool.

That might be the smallest "large" I've ever seen, though.

Must be my huge lats.

I don't suppose someone, somewhere has a recording of the show they'd be willing to share?

Some of us work during the day :x

From the two 150+ post comment threads, I'm assuming the whole thing devolved into a clusterfuck.

When the weekly highlight of your blog was the influx of a darker shade of pink homosexuals, something has gone horrifically wrong.

I heard the show and yes, you did say "fuck".

Damnit. You know, I was just telling someone a while ago, someone who had some interest in bringing me on to an established internet media site, that I didn't have to say "Fuck" all the time.

I guess I've gotten too damn used to saying it.

Do you know... when I said it? I'm really just curious. Because I don't remember it at all.

I think chilling out is an extraordinarily good idea.

Blessed are the cheesemakers...

Later,
bbeck

Ace, you can break yourself from a pottymouth habit. It CAN be done. I used to bartend- for years and year as a matter of fact- and most bartenders swear ... a fucking lot. Then I started having babies, and really had to cut back. I think there is a 10-step program somewhere.

I'm sorry, I don't remember what you guys were talking about when it happened. I just remember thinking that Jeff/Bill were going to get ripped a new one by the RightTalk Radio peeps.

It occured before the half-hour mark of the show, possibly before twenty minutes in.

Third or fourth word in Ace. Yens had just gotten started.

I wouldn't think this would be a huge problem. They can edit out the bad word and replay the show.

What, is the FCC going to get after them?

Seriously Warden! That is DEFINITELY the smallest "large" I've ever seen - it fits like farking spandex!

I feel like superman (pre-equestrian catastrophe) walkin around the house in it though. Which is a good thing. Kind of.

Ace, Let's Be Honest: a very important component of this site's humor is its creative (and, most importantly, tasteful and appropriate) use of some of most foul language imaginable. I mean, I noticed that back there during the run-up to the election you went PG on us. And you know what? The humor suffered noticeably. Not to the point of the site being unfunny or boring, but I felt I could actually TELL, as I read this post or that, where you were straining against the self-imposed "keep it clean" straitjacket.

Sorry, Ace - in the end, you may be married to the F-bomb the way sailors are married to the sea.

(N.B.: this is a non-snark comment)

For some reason, I think a person self-named Fat Kid would have ordered an EXTRA large. But that's me.

Later,
bbeck

Fat Kid isn't fat. Check his site. He's practically poured into those blue jeans.

HAhahahahaahaha! "Fisting" vs. Fisking.

How clueless about web log jargon and slang do you have to be to have never heard of "Fisking"?
It was the most unavoidable blogword of 2004.

And no, I heard no f-bomb.

Third or fourth word in Ace. Yens had just gotten started.

You. Must. Be. Shitting. Me.

How the fuck was I that stupid to say fuck right off the fucking bat?

I've got to get my behavior under control.

It occured before the half-hour mark of the show, possibly before twenty minutes in.

Hmmmm... different stories.

I guess John is just yanking my chain.

Still, I don't remember it. Damnit.

I wasn't trying to be edgy or anything. I actually was trying to avoid any profanity worse than "dick." I don't know how the hell that slipped out.

Do you realize it seems, at this point, possible that Jeff and Bill may lose their show because of that accidental curseword?

I mean, not to make you feel like an absolute shitheel or anything.

(Actually, I'm sorta worried about it, joking aside.)

Goddamnit.

Hey, I didn't say shit about you saying fuck.

Fucking po**y m**th.

I can't hear the fucking show because you fucking said fuck?

Bullshit. Fucking Bullshit.

Cocksuckers. (Wait, that's a different thread.)

I was not yanking your chain. I would not have any reason too. I'm serious. I'm sure there are ways for this to be confirmed. Plus. The show started at 5 past the hour, then the normal intro, with Bill and Jeff , then Bills rant, then you. and that puts it at damn near 20 past.

Big, floppy donkey dick.

There, I said it.

So Bill and Jeff might get pulled over Ace's "fuck"? Ace is more powerful than I thought.

I got the XXL shirt today, it's tight and makes my biceps look huge (more huge than they really are). My wife hates it and my kids think it's cool, so it's now my favorite non-Hawaiian shirt. I told my 12 year old I'd wear it to church on Sunday and his eyes got big as saucers, probably because I got the shirt with the quote on the back.

I'm shocked, absolutely SHOCKED.

Its not like you were slinging around outlandish allegations like Chris Matthews was caught last night skull fucking a dead rabid racoon but got off because he then proceeded to blow the whole police station and the mayor...or something along those lines....

Hey Ace, a suggestion for avoiding this scene next time you go on the radio: don't tell anyone here about it.

That way we won't have any more of this disconcerting Misery-like "I'm your biggest fan!" cult bullshit.

OT - I got my t-shirt today.

When you talked to RockingClothing, they did tell you their women's sizes ran small? I remember reading that. What they didn't tell you is that a bloody medium makes me look like the Dusty girl in the ad - OK, my tummy isn't as firm, but I'm not 25 any more, either. I ordered the medium out of modesty.

Ladies, you need not demand scoop necks. Trust me, you don't. You could be flat-chested and this thing would make you look like a medieval bar maid in a bad fantasy game.

"... this thing would make you look like a medieval bar maid in a bad fantasy game."

Perhaps that's why I liked the way mine fit.

Later,
bbeck

Well, listened to it. Train wreck about sums it up. *shrugs* Live and learn.

Just sounds like the hosts were reading shtick from a sheet of paper half the time. They seemed to be trying way too hard to sound like an impression of generic radio host. Too stiff and effected is what I'm trying to say, I guess.

Ace, you did fine once you started talking. The more you talked, the more relaxed you sounded. So, yeah, next time down a few shots, talk to a friend on the phone for a few minutes, and then go on the air.

That way we won't have any more of this disconcerting Misery-like "I'm your biggest fan!" cult bullshit.

Right. None of that happening at Protein Wisdom.

Ace,

Serious comment, take it (or leave it) as friendly advice; don't ever do those two a favor again. They repaid your generosity by coming over here and insulting you and the people that hang out here. Its all about them and thats all its ever going to be (in their minds at least).

Just listened to the replay. At approx 12:45 into the show you were talking about protecting your privacy and you said "....a couple of people out there who might want to fuck with me, fuck with credit ratings....".

Were y'all RAISED in the Southpark cartoon?

I mean seriously. I need a big bar of IVORY SOAP and wash out all of your mouths.

I say stop cussing and start kissing.

Brewfan -

Please find me a quote where I insulted Ace, and/or all of the folks that comment here. "A lot of fellatio in this thread?" Was that it? Well, there was quite a bit of that going on - but that's not exactly a blanket comment on all of Ace's commenters ... just some of the nasteir ones that preceded my input.

You know, people like you.

Daniel explained: Just listened to the replay. At approx 12:45 into the show you were talking about protecting your privacy and you said "....a couple of people out there who might want to fuck with me, fuck with credit ratings....".

Huh. Being a potty-mouth raised in a South Park cartoon myself, as I'm told I am, I didn't even fuckin' notice that fuckin' shit myself. Well, fuck me!

I say stop cussing and start kissing.

Sure!! CyperKiss to you!!!!! *SMOOCH*

Megan too, cuz I think she needs one...;-)

Oooh! Oooh! Pick me! Pick me!

Fuckin' A-, ma.

SEE?????????????????

See what? That I have a thing for blondes? Yeah, real big revelation there, darlin'. ;)

I say stop cussing and start kissing.

STALK ME!

I got called out of my office briefly and missed a few minutes just past the half-hour. But I do recall hearing some "language" early and thinking, damn, that must not be an issue. It wasn't terrible and didn't register real strong. But if Right Wing has a language policy, as now seems apaprent, yeah, unfortunately, it was beyond it.

You could lose the show over some cusswords? Does the FCC have jurisdiction over internet-only broadcasts?

I didn't hear any profanity. Of course, I've also seen Goodfellas about two dozen times, so profanity sometimes feels like auditory wallpaper to me.

Got my shirt today also. Needed a Large, so I got XL knowing how these things go. Fits about right.

The shirt is really cool. Now I just have to field test it. I'm going to take a walk through certain notorious areas of the local park tomorrow to make sure this cool shirt is not a homo magnet! I already had to burn my tux this week; I would hate to lose this teeshirt.

Slublog opined: "I didn't hear any profanity."

Okay, you being a Goodfellas fan, and the (presumed) coining of the phrase "auditory wallpaper" redeems the sin you committed by participating in and to some degree exacerbating the trainwreck. You're in my good books again, Slublog. I'm sure you'll sleep better tonight, knowing that. ;)

They could lose their show over a curseword.., on the freakin' internet?? Do they even get paid?

You're in my good books again, Slublog. I'm sure you'll sleep better tonight, knowing that. ;)

Thanks.

But I kind of...liked the insults.

Is that wrong?

It has nothing to do with the FCC. It's RightTalk's house and their rules. They can do whatever they want.

A shame if Jeff/Bill lose the show because of "fuck", "pussy" and "shlong". Maybe some enterprising libertarian/conservative will come up with their own radio deal that allows people to curse.

How about - "South Park Radio"?

Those of you who want to can hear the show in its entirety here (with thanks to Daily Recycler).

If you listen, I'm sure you'll find we were quite gracious to Ace. And if you bother to listen past Ace, you'll see we did the same kind of thing with Val from Babalublog.

As to BrewFan's comment above - the one about repaying generosity by insulting Ace and the people he hangs out with - uh, well, don't know what to tell you there, buddy. I took a lot of shit from certain commenters, noted that those commenters were acting like loons, and moved on. Don't recall bashing Ace, either.

Though he is the death card.

Were y'all RAISED in the Southpark cartoon?

Heh. My "big, floppy donkey dick" comment came directly from the South Park movie. Good call, RWS!

Missed the initial cast, listened to the archive on Goldstein's site. Reports of the show's suckiness greatly exaggerated, I've heard worse from professionals.

I've never said Goldstein's blog wasn't funny, I've even praised it as brilliant - and meant it. But I'm really tired of the perpetual victim thing he has going. Shame.

He's talented, but not so talented as to tolerate the childisnness anymore. Life's too short for the BS of the overly emotionally needy - especially when they have to feed it through the Internet.

Nobodies getting their shows cancelled. RIGHTALK is a big community and we didn't want to put off any of our other more serious broadcast partners with the "edginess" that Bill and Jeff exhibit on occasion.

Finding the right balance is our goal and today was simply one episode in a long term learning project in skirting the edge without falling off. We had a conference call after the show and I believe we all came away with a good feeling about where we are headed.

I don't know a whole lot about emotional neediness, Dan, but I do wonder if posting about my perceived neediness and childishness on somebody else's blog isn't a big ol' cry for attention.

...Like when you begged me to link your fight with Paul at Wizbang. Perhaps a pattern is forming?

Listen: I'm not acting like a perpetual victim. I simply responded to 2-3 of the most loony comments I've seen over here. Then I had some chicken, watched a couple of "X-Files" episodes on DVD, put my kid down, and checked my email.

And now I'm leaving this comment.

My point? Don't have one. Not interested enough to develop a thesis, frankly. But then, I'm relaxed like that.

Jeff - if one of the two X-Files episodes was Bad Blood or Detour, you might be forgiven for the show. Well, partially.

Megan --

I just listened to the show for the first time, and I can honestly say I thought it was pretty good. I suggest giving it another try.

And no, I was watching "Humbug," and the "Jose Chung" episode. Later, I'll be watching Millenium.

Speaking of which, I had a whole Millenium riff I wanted to do with Ace when we discussed the Schiavo case. But we never got to it.

Incidentally? Ace has done 3 less radio shows than us. And we have watch clocks, listen to cues in our headsets, come up with questions, etc. So we ask that you cut us a little slack, if you're so inclined.

Jeff - like I've been saying, your writing has more than earned you all the slack you want. Just pointing out that calling people who like you names doesn't have a positive impact.

I loathed Humbug with a white-hot passion. Yuck, yuck, yuck. Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space' was brilliant, though, so I'll give you a pass. :)

Incidentally, if you check this thread, I'll bet you'd get the pop culture reference everyone else is giving up on.

So we ask that you cut us a little slack, if you're so inclined.

One more time:

Kum-By-Yah, my Lord, Kum-By-Yah . . .

Or not, Michael. Up to you.

"Kum-by-yah" gives me a fuckin' headache.
The people into that go to Sullivan's.
How's about "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer"

Ace just go straight to XM, its like cable for radio. No FCC censoring ya.

Whatever, Jeff - I didn't beg you to link to the deal with Paul - it was sent to a few people in the same email, as I posted on my site. I guess this is the insidious thing, oow - let me point out he had another dust up with someone and make it seem like he has the issue. Pulease! In that line of reasoning, your dust up with hundred percenter was a SCREAM for attention. I'd have thought you were above straw men.

Okay, ya want the straight Opinion? Well, I'll give it anyway. The show isn't good - but even in my criticism, I gave you every credit for a new undertaking and said you needed room to work with it. That's hardly the attack you guys would suggest.

But, why isn't it good? In one opinion, of course? You were both impressive, buty in different ways. Bill brings a tension to it, you, on the otherhand, are much more relaxed. Speaking for me, and only for me - it didn't seem to work. I just don't hear you guys bringing out the best in one another.

I felt I could see Bill doing a very good topical show - little more news oriented. I caould also see you exelling in a more comedic format. I thought you were terrific with Reynolds. Again, only one opinion, but the chemistry didn't seem to be there for me. But that doesn't make either one of you untalented - I thought you both had a lot to bring to it. But together, just didn't work for "me."

If being friendly to anyone is contingent upon heaping praise, as opposed to what you thought, what can I say. But your now bringing this whole "Oh, he emailed me for a link" crap into this - after I donated to YOUR blog - after i offered free marketing advice - that sucks, Jeff. It's pathetic and a sign of poor character, frankly, and you've make an inaccurate portrayal of it for your own benefit.

Damn right I e mail some people for thinks - especially if I think they are decent folks and will consider it. If they don't - no sweat. I don't get upset and complain. But when they show what they are really made of ass individuals, as you did, no worries, Jeff - clearly I won't be bothering you - as I haven't for some time, actually.

Dan --

I got over my dustup with HundredPercenter very quickly, all things considered.

Had your sending me links bothered me, I would have told you so. I only bring it up to highlight that your suggestion that either Bill or I needed to be funny before you could tell us apart wasn't a big concern of YOURS when you were looking for traffic.

I weary of this. And for the record, being friendly is NOT contingent on "heaping praise."

But being a jerk is precisely contingent upon where and when and how you decide to level your criticisms.

So. As I never said you were bothering me, you can send me whatever you want; I never told you to stop, because I liked (and linked) a lot of what you sent me. But that of course doesn't give you free reign to dump on me without my responding.

Jeff, and as I'll say, again - because no one knows what all gets read here. I was being flip and I should have thought better of that. As I have said to you in email - you have always been very kind here from when I started, til now.

It wasn't meant to be such a shot, though I can see how you took it that way. I've had nothing but praise for your blog and would like to think, that with the chance to get into the forum, the same could be true of the show. Hell, that's why I have been listening, even if I have to catch a late re-run.

I didn't feel I was attacking you the way maybe some were. If it read that way - I wish it hadn't. Hell I have even gone the the trouble to download and read your fiction, as I admire your talent.

And I have told you that. It's as true now as it was then. I didn't think it unfair to say the radio gig probabloy needed time - which is in my comments and was the gist of what I was saying.

I'm over it, Dan, and I still like you. FOr what that's worth. So don't sweat it.

IT'S A TRUCE! K?

Oh my GOD. I feel like I need to take a shower after that little exchange. Get a room guys, K.

I feel like I've stepped into an episode of Will and Grace.

I'm over it, Dan, and I still like you. For what that's worth. So don't sweat it.

IT'S A TRUCE! K?

Cool! Life is too short for this, and blogging is hard enough for all.

I think Ace's use of the word 'fuck' is technically OK, because he used it as a verb and not an epithet.

I'm just saying.

I liked the goddamn show and I thought Ace was cute. Is there something wrong with me?