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April 06, 2005
Let's Be Honest: That Schiavo "Talking Points Memo" Was a Rather Shoddy ForgeryNow all 55 Senate Republicans are on-record saying that did not distribute it. And the MSM has not offered any countering evidence to show that any had. Thanks to The National Journal's "Blogometer" feature (subscription required), which further notes that there is... widening speculation that a "GOP talking points memo" (which supposedly had GOP leaders claiming the Terri Schiavo case was good politics) is in fact a fraud. The latter is partly fueled by a Washington Times report, an instance of blogs keeping a story alive long enough for the MSM to take a second look. Emphasis added, of course. Let's just note this-- maybe the Blogometer would like to note it, too. While the "legitimate" dextrosphere (i.e., anyone you've ever heard of, really) sets their sites on stories that turn out to be right, or at least seem plausible if not yet proven, the sinistrosphere is concocting schizophrenic theories about Jeff Gannon having been a presidential pedophilia sex-cult slave and a brainwashed pawn of Satanic CIA agents. No, not all in the left half of the blogosphere, of course. There are plenty of people on the left pursuing legitimate lines of inquiry. But these fever-swamp fantasias seem to only come from one side of the blogosphere -- and not just from the low-level cranks, either. posted by Ace at 01:10 PM
CommentsWelcome back drama-queen. ;) Posted by: fat kid on April 6, 2005 01:14 PM
Ace, glad to see ya back at the helm. Thats. Just. The. Way. It. Should. F-ing. Be. Posted by: McDirty on April 6, 2005 01:18 PM
Uhhhhhh... lose shit. That was me, Hoke, actually posting. Shit! I keep leaving open two posting windows. I'm not back yet. I've got two more "phone calls" to go. Posted by: Hoke on April 6, 2005 01:23 PM
Uhhhhhh... lose shit. That was me, Hoke, actually posting. Ha. So much for my post in another comment about how glad I was posting back under your own name. I'm not back yet. I've got two more "phone calls" to go. "I'm not back yet"? Don't you mean Ace is not back yet? You're not even trying anymore, are you? Although I will say the phone calls have been funny. I suppose I could read two more of those. But after that, I'm going to start whining again... Posted by: Bob on April 6, 2005 01:35 PM
At least this time they didn't try to claim it was from a 1971 typewriter. Scary. They're learning. Posted by: TallDave on April 6, 2005 01:54 PM
You're not even trying anymore, are you? Not very much, no. Look, I've got this stupid story-arc planned. I'll finish it up and then announce I'm back. I never wanted to do this in the first place-- honestly. I had no prank planned. It was a dumb throw-away joke I didn't expect anyone to take seriously and then, well, Instapundit linked it and everyone thought I must have sent an email to him or something. I didn't. Someone else did or else he just checked out the blog. It's a dumb prank, I had nothing planned for it, and I've been hating life since it began. I just want to finish the stupid f'n' thing and be done with it. This is, in fact, worse that "Smitty HQ." Posted by: ace on April 6, 2005 01:59 PM
Actually, the phone calls have been pretty funny. The other stuff looked a bit like you were going through some sort of Howard Beale, multiple-personality meltdown. Funny but disturbing. Which, of course, is what keeps me coming back. Posted by: utron on April 6, 2005 02:04 PM
Yeah, I think we can all agree that more phone call posts would be fine. Specifically, two more. Heh. Ace, you lunkhead, you posted as yourself again with the "Fantasia" post. It seems that, like Jeff Gannon, "Hoke" is trying to do things to draw attention to his real identity. Hopefully the Democratic Underground will expose you soon and you can go back not hating life. The DU likes helping people that way. Posted by: Bob on April 6, 2005 02:13 PM
Ace, Posted by: BT on April 6, 2005 02:18 PM
The best forgeries are the ones that are mostly or 100% truthful. The "Talking Points" memo worked because it captured exactly what the Republicans believed at that point. They were falling all over themselves to pander to the Religious Right and show they had "values". Including the President that couldn't be bothered on his last vacation to issue a statement about up to a 1/3rd of a million people dying in the Boxing Day Tsunami (with hundreds of Americans dead, missing, in need of rescue),, but flying back to DC on a Midnight Grandstanding Flight so he could personally sign a Bill that could have been Fax'd to him for signature, "because every minute is precious and I didn't want to delay things". To most Americans, outside non-Partisan Republicans, this was high meddling. To help Religious Right Republicans understand this, it would be comparable to Teddy Kennedy saying that his relative Michael Skakel got a raw deal in Connecticut State courts despite due process with Teddy saying the findings were flawed Skakel's human rights violated, and he pushed a special Bill to try Michael Skakel in Federal Courts "de novo". With Bill Clinton, thinking the "cause" of Michael Skakel would help him in the polls, flying back from Pebble Beach golf course so he could personally sign the Bill in a photo op. Now theRepublicans are looking at the seppuku knife they unwittingly planted half-way in their gut, slowly trying to extract it, hoping they didn't hit a vital organ. Frist has now said the courts were working well, gave fair and independent judgement, backing off yet more after conceding his "instant video diagnosis" of a condition he was not fit to make even if he was personally attending...was not a very good idea. Hastert is a looking a fool for going along with DeLays grand idea. And DeLay looks like everyone, including the Republicans, are fixing to make him a sacrificial goat for his plentiful ethics shortcomings. His latest "Ooops, how did they find out about that!" moments are disclosure that he met with a bunch of shady Russians and helped their entree into Washington DC's inner circles, and how he managed to pay his wife and daughter 1/2 million dollars out of his campaign funds since 2000 for their "invaluable help" in retaining his safe District. As for RatherGate, the biggest flaw was the memos sounded nothing like the truth of what people in TANG knew of either Bush or the Colonel. People were skeptical from the start, and the technical issues with the forgeries followed. With the Talking Points memo, no Republican said "No, it doesn't reflect the truth at all" - no, they just said they didn't write it.
Posted by: Cedarford on April 6, 2005 02:20 PM
In other words, Cedarford, it's fake but accurate.
Posted by: Annalucia on April 6, 2005 02:42 PM
"Fake but accurate" is nothing new for the left. How many times have you heard them blathering on about how while something might not be literally true it still speaks to deeper truths blah blah blah. Look at the whole "I, Rigoberto Menchu" flap from a few years ago. It was this story about the horrible things this woman had gone through in Guatemala, such as having her brother killed. Then it turned out that many details of her story were pure lies. Her brother, for one example, was still alive. The left's reaction? The whole "deeper truths" nonsense. I don't read the comments here all the time, but I had read enough to notice that attacking Cedarford seems to be the big sport around here. Sometimes it seemed people would be all over him for really no good reason. But this post of his is pretty ridiculous. How do we really know that the Republicans were just using this issue to pander? Maybe they really wanted to, you know, keep Terri Schiavo alive. Cedarford attacks Bush for not issuing a statement after the Tsunami when he went out to say every minute counted in signing the Schiavo bill. Well, uh, issuing a statement isn't going to do a damn thing to help people. Signing a bill that could potentially restore a feeding tube to someone being dehydrated is clearly time-sensitive. The statement about how no Republican has denied the truth of the latest fake memo makes no sense. What are they supposed to do, call a press conference and announce that even though nobody saw this memo and it didn't come from them they still want to go on the record as not agreeing with it? I think once you say "this isn't ours" then that pretty much is the end of the story. Otherwise, we could turn this logic around on the Democrats. Many have suggested they planted this memo. Why have no Democrats stepped forward to refute the charge that their party is planting fake memos? Posted by: Bob on April 6, 2005 03:09 PM
Bob - With 2.5 million Americans dying every year, 1.5 million dying after medical care is withdrawn, with several hundred thousand mentally incapacitated - primarily Alzheimer patients - dying from inability to get food and water down or having feeding machines turned off......... You wonder: How do we really know that the Republicans were just using this issue to pander? Maybe they really wanted to, you know, keep Terri Schiavo alive. It is obvious they acted because the Religious Right used the Laci and Chandra Damsel in Distress formula. As long as a young white woman with a good smile is in peril and a "bad guy" can be cast, the media will cover it. So "Terri" was elevated from the 100's of thousands of "others" to the spotlight for their purposes. Congress & Bush took the bait created by the misleading video and the numerous lies about her condition from the Schindler/Religious Right camp. It was the 1st big election payback the Religious Right demanded of the Republicans and they stood on their hind legs and barked propery. In a few more weeks the astonishing news will come back that despite all the medical evidence showing all cognitive areas of her brain were destroyed and Schiavo was beyond any recovery (the due process finding) - the autopsy will show that most of her brain was destroyed and she was beyond all hope of recovery of anything. And in the intervening weeks that mark the time between Congress reconvening without debate for a special law, the Prez jetting back rather than sign a FAX's Bill.......several thousand Americans will die in circumstances identical to "Terri" without all the religious folk blubbering or Laci Peterson followers looking for another object to transfer their misplaced emotions onto. In a year this will be passed off as one of those quirky incidents of mass hysteria that afflicts crowds now and then. Posted by: Cedarford on April 6, 2005 04:38 PM
Why does anyone ever bother to read Cedarford's crapulations? Remember when he insisted that Bush's inauguration would be upstaged by the haggard appearance of Justice Rehnquist? Cedarford confidently predicted a firestorm of contoversy about lifetime judicial appointments. That's as close to the target as he ever gets. Posted by: lyle on April 6, 2005 05:46 PM
"Why does anyone ever bother to read Cedarford's crapulations?" I'm thinking its related to the same reason people slow down to look at car wrecks. Posted by: BrewFan on April 6, 2005 06:50 PM
Lyle - You are welcome to write back after Reinquist finishes out this term. He had a good day on Inauguratio, but is back to missing arguments. As for lifetime appointments, I said that more and more legal scholars are advocating change and the reasons are becoming more obvious - not it being a public firestorm. As for your total shock when the autopsy shows Schiavo's brainpan was largely empty and she essentially died 15 years ago.......despite all the court evidence being available for public reading.............well, at least you will have the pleasure of knowing you are in the company of several million other rubes duped by the Schindlers and the Right to Life handlers of the Schindlers and a cast of a few dozen lawyers, doctors, and nurses willing to prostitute their professional reputation in the name of religious conviction.
Posted by: Cedarford on April 6, 2005 07:15 PM
Why is SpewFan so pro-life? He figures if they cap people, it will be in reverse order from how he was picked on neighborhood sports teams. Instead of last, he would be 1st. Posted by: Cedarford on April 6, 2005 07:18 PM
Why is Cedarford so pro-death? Because he figures if they kill the retards, that would be cool because he's a self-hating retard. Instead of smart, he's retarded. Which is the opposite of smart. And he belabors the point of his humour. Posted by: Pseudarford on April 6, 2005 07:23 PM
LOL! That may be the lamest flame I've ever read. If you want to call do-over and try again, its ok with me. Posted by: BrewFan on April 6, 2005 07:25 PM
Uhhhh...they can't do an autopsy, she was cremated directly after her death...per Michael. Don't dig too deep and ask yourself why. Posted by: salmypal on April 6, 2005 07:36 PM
salmypal - The autopsy was done before the cremation, moron. SpewFan - Don't worry, Spewie. Even if you were picked last, no guarantee that barring Alzheimers or another nedical condition that you will be mistaken as being worse than mildly vegetative. No one is talking about killing folks like you. Posted by: cedarford on April 6, 2005 08:56 PM
That's a shame. Posted by: Richard Bennett on April 6, 2005 09:11 PM
Hey! Dickies back! Where you been Dickie? Busy inventing more technology? What was it this week? Token Ring over utp? You internut you! Posted by: BrewFan on April 6, 2005 09:55 PM
Eat crow wingnuts. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/washpost/20050407/pl_washpost/a32554_2005apr6 Posted by: on April 7, 2005 12:47 AM
The dumbfucks are wrong about everything else, they might as be wrong about this too. Way to go Sherlocks. Fucking idiots. Posted by: Fuck You Repuke on April 7, 2005 01:14 AM
No fuckhead, you're right, we were wrong about this. But y'know, if we were the paragons of intellect that you Leftist twats are, we'd be insisting that some diabolical Demoncrat mastermind planted this in the Martinez counsel's brain. Or that somehow the counsel was part of a childhood pedophilia kidnapping and became a legislative counsel b/c he was brainwashed by diabolical liberal corporate interessts. Instead of just considering martinez's office a bunch of addle pated droolers like we do now. Yeah, we sure were wrong about everything, like the need for welfare reform (that Billy to his credit coopted), and communism, and democratic sentiment in the ME, and shit, well, EVERYthing. asslicker Posted by: hobgoblin on April 7, 2005 02:40 AM
Mr. Goblin, Posted by: frank on April 7, 2005 10:58 AM
Mae Magouirk safe for now. See Tekgnosis for further details. Tell the Media to report the REAL Schiavo polls! http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7351686&type=ME http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/4/emw226586.htm http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/prweb/20050408/bs_prweb/prweb226586_3 My account, etc. of Terri Schindler's Funeral Mass: http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2005/04/terris_funeral_.html Main page: http://tekgnosis.typepad.com Posted by: Juan Schoch on April 12, 2005 12:07 AM
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