Are you sure, Ace? That's Keith Olbermann comment sounds awfully familiar.....

That's = That.

Dog gone it. Ever since I promised to clean up my act, you know what I've been surrounded by?

Unsecured Excrement.

What would Anka think?

Yeah, the shit is pretty thick (or loose? Not really sure, as my skills are weak, generally, regarding shit-categorization). It will go away, but there's a lot of pain right now. It hurts, really bad.

Maybe things will get better soon.

You have to keep your own house in order. I run a message board and a few websites. You've got to be the man in charge, don't apologize. Damnit, you have to be Stalin in order to show the masses the way to be free. No, I didn't mean that. You have to be the Dahli, I mean the Acey Lama dealing with this stuff. You are peaceful and benevolent, but have the amazing power of control of electrons, reachable by only those with a wise webmaster and the correct password. Use it well, but use it with authority and never look back.

Hell, I haven't been around here long, but appreciated that the weird blue Justice with Death's skull blogad was allowed to linger here.

Keep up the good work, and man the ramparts with gusto.

It's true that too many ad hominems could cut into the ad revenues.

Exactly. It's all about the blog-money.

You can't fight the money.

Ok. But Bill from INDC still sounds very Kerryesque and aloof.

But that just coming from lil ole emotional me.

BTW Ace- when we going to head over to the next Bush/Nazi rally?

"Exactly. It's all about the blog-money."

I'm sure it's not, actually. I just couldn't pass up the little lame play on words.

Hey Ace..there's this really popular movie out called Jerry Maguire, where one of the main characters has a catch phrase called "Show Me the Money!"

I don't want you to fall into the trap of adopting "Show me the Blog Money!" as your "new" catch-phrase because in the wake of the whole "Star Wars Kid" debacle, that would just be embarrassing.

Just trying to help you stay abreast of the zeitgeist....

I'm sure it's not, actually. I just couldn't pass up the little lame play on words.

You misunderstand. I wasn't being snide with you. I was agreeing-- it is all about the blog-money.

I'm not doing this for the women, after all.

If I wanted a hobby that would keep me in women, I would have continued playing D&D. That seemed to work better.

It's like my Dad used to say to me:

"Son," he'd say, "remember this about women. You can buy all the sweet action you want on any street corner in America. But if you ever find a gal that has a velvet Crown Royal sack full of oddly shaped dice, that's the one you want to 'fail the bachelor savings throw' on."

Sure, it took me years of therapy to understand what the hell he meant. But now I know why I'm an only child. And why he didn't get married until he was 40......

'Zactly.

Lessee... if I understand this correctly, if I'm fun and witty in this response, I'm gonna get paid for it? I don't wanna hear the damned check's in the mail either. Been there, done that, got the "T" ;-)

No, if you're fun and witty, *I* get paid.

This is a sort of pyramid scheme. I like to call it "Money Momentum." You get the money flowing in my direction, and then later on I quit this site and go to Europe to work on my novel.

Eventually you too get crazy blog money... somehow. Sure as shit ain't comin' out of my pocket.

But it works out somehow. This guy on TV explained it.

Not to backseat drive, but banning Cedarford after his insane anti-JeffG rants would really have helped establish that there is, in fact, a limit here.

Someone,

I really didn't see those rants. Honestly.

I don't always read the comments. I do sometimes, depending on how interesting the discussion looks. But obviously there are a good number of comments made here, and I can't follow every, or even most, discussions.

FWIW, I comment for the chicks. It ain't the money. Never was.

Yeah, Ray, and how's that workin' out for you?

Last I heard bbeck told you she'd sooner kiss a Wookie.

And she's actually dated Wookies.

Nice one Ace. I come to this place to get away from reality, okay.

I'm just saying the comment money ain't gonna change me, I'm keeping it pure as it was day one. When I got into this crazy thing, it was about the words, man - the words and the chicks, and I've stayed true to that. What the hell happened to the rest of you? Sell outs!

One thing I'm sure of - if Kos is reading this stuff he's laughing his ass off ;->

Ace,

You may be onto something. If comments keep flying in at this rate (which I doubt; part of it is being one of the few high-profile blogs to hit the Schiavo stuff head-on -- other bloggers are coming in here to stir shit up^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hargue, which is, uh, anomalous), you've pretty much already passed the Charles Johnson threshold where no one can read all the discussions. And it seems unfair to have you chained to these threads looking for bad behavior (though Charles was doing a superhumanly impressive job as of when I stopped being able to follow lgf comments)...

In the long run, though, I wonder if natural audience growth won't cause this anyway. A good amount of the fun here is the lively but managable comments sections, and I'd be sad to see those get too big or be killed off, but I'm not sure where else this goes. As I was hinting, some pruning of trolls might do the job for a while, though the in-jokes about Cedarford and DTL were great fun too.

I guess more D&D posts might help.

Oops, meant "where else this goes after you hit 50K readers/day or so"... Which may be far off, but may not be either.

Can we work out a commission plan if we leave provocative comments that keep people coming back for the flame wars?

Seems only fair.

Since when have you conservative fuckbeaks been concerned with social niceties? Petty hostility is the foundation of your philosphy, please don't lose sight of that - it makes me laugh. So fight, little monkies... FIGHT!

You spelled monkeys wrong, Einstein.

"Can we work out a commission plan if we leave provocative comments that keep people coming back for the flame wars?"

Sure. You can set up whatever commission plan you like. Just make sure you bill it to the "Ain't Got Nothin' To Do With My Ass" account.

I'm just saying the comment money ain't gonna change me, I'm keeping it pure as it was day one. When I got into this crazy thing, it was about the words, man - the words and the chicks, and I've stayed true to that. What the hell happened to the rest of you? Sell outs!

Ahhh, youth. I wish I could hold on to my idealistic dreams of a world where the only things that mattered were integrity... and pooter.

But I can't. I've grown up. Integrity's only worth what people will pay you to give it up for, and pooter's... well, it's fine distraction for a time, but what are you going to do with the other eighteen hours of the day?

It's only crazy blog-money that stays gold.

Stay gold, my friends. Stay gold.

You spelled monkeys wrong, Einstein.

Not surprising, he spelled "bear" wrong.

You could just adopt the DU policy of deleting any post that isn't insulting to the opposition party.

Oh, wait, sorry. Forgot which party was about free(er) speech and all.

Ace, you complete me!

And that takes some balls to say, coming from a heteronormative guy.

Since when have you conservative fuckbeaks been concerned with social niceties?

He also spelled "fuckbeaks" wrong, in the sense that it's not actually a word.

Or even a neologism that makes any sense.

Who fucks beaks? And if you did-- would that even be an insult?

Who's to judge? Who's behr to judge what a man may do in the privacy of his own home with a beak?

Remember that duck?

Nice couple of posts, Ace. Maybe it's just me, but the atmosphere in the right half of the blogosphere has seemed a little rancid lately. I enjoy lurking over at DU and Kos and snickering at the goings-on--like going to the zoo and stopping by Monkey Island (or, as the locals say, "Monkie" Island)--but it's not pleasant seeing the same kind of venom coming from people I supposedly agree with. I mean, not behaving like those morons is a big part of my political self-definition.

It's your blog and you can do what you want with it, but it's nice to know that the head guy has some conscious and integrity, and loose shit won't be tolerated. And by all means, call Ken Olbermann a fucking cocksucker any time the spirit moves you.

But I can't. I've grown up. Integrity's only worth what people will pay you to give it up for, and pussy gets old.

That's fat Ace talkin, fat old Ace in the crazy collared rhinestone jumpsuit, poppin percocets. But I can remember a young slim blogger, hungry, working his way up through the ranks. Remember that guy Ace? The swivel hipped blogger, the one who didn't care what town the tour bus stopped in, always ready to tear his heart out for the screaming girls? The one who didn't ask first thing bout the gate, the t-shirt sales?

Look, I'm just some punk commenter working his way up through the comment ranks too, like you once did. But I can remember that guy. Why can't you?

First of all, Dickless, I edited out the "p----y" word, and now you've gone and revealed that I used it.

For a moment I forgot that this was not, in fact, Al Goldstein's Midnight Blue.

But as to your point:

Look, I'm just some punk commenter working his way up through the comment ranks too, like you once did. But I can remember that guy. Why can't you?

That guy got his black-belt in karate in three months and got to pose with Nixon.

What you got goin' on in your life?

Oh yeah-- your "integrity." The same "integrity" all these other young-punk bands have-- your Foghats, your Bachman-Turner Overdrives, your Thin Lizzy's, your Molly Hatchet's.

While you and your good-time-Charlie Marshall Tucker Bands are scrapin' to get by, this "old rocker" is killin' 'em in Vegas.

Vegas, baby. That's the real heart of rock 'n roll. No matter what this controversial "Huey Lewis" character may say.

Pooter? OMFG, I'm done. That is the saddest...

I pledge to do my part (being a gentleman, not giving you any effing money) Ace.

Ducks don't have beaks, they have bills. If they had beaks that joke about the pharmacist asking the duck how he wanted to pay for the condom would never have worked.

I must have missed out on a lot of good flame war, because I haven't noticed anything unusual, just the usual cedarford stuff followed by a little dogpile, but it was all good, clean fun.

Is this about the *? Because I thought the * was pretty funny.

I dunno -- "fuckbeaks" kind of tickled my funny bone. Or maybe that's indigestion.

WE should all probably clean up our acts, because the next big frontier in our new political world is coming. up quick. We have now entered in to the death-of -convenience phase. Life is no longer the starting point for civil liberties. We will now have judges lowering the bar on who really would like to die, if they could just tell us clearly. Where there is doubt, let there be death and all of that.
The next frontier will be that pesky free speech getting people all riled up needlessly against the judge or the ACLU or other appointed keepers. Or, heaven forbid that people should ask tough questions about politicians and their policies. My bet is we will have very well managed election campaign as the next frontier gets worked out. Managed as well as Cuban or Venezuelan or Chinese. Terri Schiavo is dying because of our sickness as a society, not her handicap.

Who fucks beaks?

Dunno who's fucking him, but David Spade is a fuckbeak. Check this out:

picture

And story here

Thank you, hunter, for not getting the point in a more spectacular way than a point's never been gotten before. You have reached the very apex of point-not-gettinghood. Were you a martial artist, you would be on the top floor of the Not Getting the Point Pagoda, more than seven feet tall with huge muttonchop sideburns and a gawky side snap kick that took a week to throw. Were you a television show, you would be the "Beverly Hills Buntz" of Not Getting the Point, except that you wouldn't even have Dennis Franz to redeem you twenty years later.

Ace, Ace, Ace. I keep telling you, comments are no place to have a conversation. You're too big for comments these days. Start a forum.

Better yet, let me start one for you. Mine makes money, remember?

We can disagree without being disagreeable---Ace

And if we can't; we can learn when it is better to just STFU,and move-on. Comments are FUN and when they become personal,they become NOT FUN.

this has been a good week to just sit on the sidelines and watch the comments explode.....i'm sure the flamefests didn't hurt traffic either, and i really doubt any regulars were scared off.....i'm sure things will cool back down

> David Spade

You know what's weird? There are only two articles on that page, and they are both related to the movie "Nothing But Trouble." (1: Prosthetic nose; 2: Demi Moore.)

This reinforces my conviction that everything in the world is connected to the movie "Nothing But Trouble."

Yeah, if you have to write an essay in the comments section instead of some of our Ace O Spade Commentor trademarked oneliners you've got problems.

Holy shite, I fall asleep in a world where Ace is the Real Ultimate Power, and wake up in a world where Ace is cuddling that fucking Snuggles bear.

Sheesh. . . I'm all so confused. . .

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Boy, take a couple of days to finally do this year's taxes and it seems like I missed the start of the big fight.
Since I'm late, Ace, tell me which side I'm on. Oh, better also tell me if if this is just an old-fashioned fistfight or what. I mean I gotta the big stick, someplace around there's a sharp knife, a few revolvers, a rifle or three and a 12 guage. What should I bring? Better tell me, also, what color shirt should I be wearing?
I can't come to the comment fight without knowing these things, it would just be too gauche.
There is no crazy blog money in a fight where the participants are not properly uniformed and equipped.

First of all, Dickless, I edited out the "p----y" word, and now you've gone and revealed that I used it.

There's something disarming about a guy who'll call Olbermann a fucking cocksucker at the drop of a hat, but thinks the "p----y" word is just too rough for public consumption.

ACE - I was about to say something, but I was gonna wait to see if you did.

Frankly, vitriol and invective are just plain boring. If I read one more comment about taking a dump on your carpet or fucking your wife up the ass I'll throw up! Rarely is it clever or imaginative enough to be funny, it's just the same old childish shit over and over again ad nauseum, kind of like when we were kids and never stopped trying to put each other down with, of all things, vitriol and invective! It was fun then, today it's a crashing bore.

Besides, it adds nothing at all to the argument, instead it takes away as I have to wade through all the crap to get to the argument and by the time I get there I can't remember it all. For those with short attention spans like me, (and I'll bet I'm not the only one) as soon as I see too many insults I stop reading that post and go on.

Pity too, for often those who engage in it really have something interesting to say and if they spent the time they use creating insults on creating and honing their arguments they'd be vastly better, more readable and more interesting.

seriously, make with the funny, it's been a long day

Yeah, Ray, and how's that workin' out for you?

Last I heard bbeck told you she'd sooner kiss a Wookie.

And she's actually dated Wookies.

HEY, how'd I get dragged into this? Here I am, reading along in comments all innocent (I've been out of town and haven't even had the CHANCE to flame, dang it), and I discover Ray's being told I'm not interested in him?

I'd be interested in him. Maybe. If I wasn't married. And he was rich. Remember, a sense of humor goes a long way, especially if the guy is loaded. It's also a plus if he bathes regularly, but when it comes to wealth that's nit-picking.

And my dating a Wookie is a vicious rumor. Geez, my husband may be hairy but he's not WOOKIE hairy.

Now I'm wondering if I've missed any other rumors about me over the last week...

Later,
bbeck

There's something disarming about a guy who'll call Olbermann a fucking cocksucker at the drop of a hat, but thinks the "p----y" word is just too rough for public consumption.

Yes, that is interesting...and revealing. 'Cocksucker' OK, 'pussy' shameful....Hmmmm....

PS - I got kicked off of Freeper for invective and vitriol about Moslems, which of course was much more clever but mild compared to what we have here.

Lenny Bruce once said that he refused to tell "dirty toilet jokes." And this brings up the changing nature of humor and comedy. The great old classic routines of the vaudville era are timeless because they reveal universal truths that everyone feels. Even something as vulgar as Eddie Murphy Raw is hilarious because it is so very clever and pings us all about our lies our pretenses and what low-down skunks we can all be, and nothing is funnier or more biting than laughing at ourselves.

Steve Allen once said that comedy had devloved into witless put downs and cheap shots, and that instead of genuine, spontaneous and involuntary laughter, the kind you'd hear for say, the old SNL routine "It's Pat" or Mark Twain, instead today we have "rock 'n roll laughter" where people don't really feel the joke, they simply want to laugh and sort of fake it, like Drew Carey has always done and never been funny. I am bored with the endless nasty put downs on sitcoms today. It is easy to write a bunch of quick, witless repetative put downs and hard to write good comedy that uses wit and truth and that reveals things about us all that hit us so hard that we can't help but laugh at ourselves.

Good luck Ace...

I'm hoping this is an appropriate place to post this, cause I'm guessing that I'm at least part of the reason for this thread.

Yesterday on one of the more recent threads about Terri Shiavo, Bill (from InDc) responded to me (and indirectly to my wife) with a vile post:
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Old Coot -

Good to see that you're still beating that dead horse on other blogs. I banned you for being an insulting and colossal prick, as I recall.

But if you wouldn't mind, please forward me your home address; I'll come visit you, pull my pants down and take a shit on your living room carpet.

Given your infinitely more tolerant nature, afterwards we can have tea. And perhaps you'll let me bang your wife, as well. In the back door.
Posted by Bill from INDC at March 22, 2005 03:55 PM
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Some background. I'm 63 years-old, semi-retired, politically conservative. I served in the Marine Corps (1959-1965) which I mention only to demonstrate that I've heard bad words before.
I'm new to computers and even newer to blogs. Became interested in this world in the summer of 2004 and started posting in various places in the run-up to the elections. Don't know how or when I discovered Bill's blog, but I liked it and bookmarked it. Near the election, Bill posted something (I'm doing this from memory so forgive any minor errors...I'm not Google-savvy enought to find the old post and won't go to Bill's site to find it) about not having to worry about election fraud. I posted back indicating that I thought it could be a big issue and closed my comment with the words "Bill, I pray you wake up about this". Bill quickly retorted with a snarky comment about my mental health, I e-mailed him a conciliatory note asking what I'd done to get him angry, he e-mailed back with an response that "no one talks to me like that on my blog". I recoiled, thought about it, figured that I'd better learn the blogging rules better, but when I next tried to post (on another subject) on his blog, I found myself banned.

Since yesterday, there's only been one other (indirect) contact with Bill, I saw something about him on another blog (can't remember which one, but not Ace's) regarding a spat he was having with someone/something called SekiMori (sp?). I posted a gentle comment there about being careful not to get Bill angry for fear of banning. I didn't go back there to see if that generated any response.

So yesterday I'm enjoying Ace's site and I see Bill posting. I then see others talking about Bill and being banned. So I post a cute (I think) comment that "there is a rumor going around that Bill banned his alarm clock for asking him to wake up". Kind of a coded little tweak relating back to my post on his blog that got me banned. Bill's response is above. Wow.

I'm not hear to whine, and if it comes across that way, I apologize. I'm not the most articulate person on the planet nor the brightest bulb on the tree. However those of you who have seen my posts here and on other blogs (Wizbang, Captain's Quarters, etc. ) know that I don't use profanity (I don't have a problem with it, love the way Ace uses it, but I don't want my kids seeing me do it) nor do I ever use ad hominem attacks.

So anyone who stayed awake through this turgid mess, help me. What went on here? Am I "stalking" Bill? What on earth would cause him to react the way he did? From what I've seen in this forum, you folks aren't afraid to take a dump on me if I need it. Fire away. Thanks for listening.

And PS, if Bill really wants my address he can e-mail me and I'll give it to him, but fair warning: his dental insurance should be in full force before he arrives.

I see each one of you as a dollar-sign in my army of Crazy Blog-Money soldiers.

That's so freakin' touching I could cry.

Funny, though. And that's why I keep coming.

To the site I mean, coming to the site...you know, as in 'visiting.'

I may have used that word on the wrong site, given some of what I read on these comment boards.

And Old Coot prove my point!

And Old Coot proves my point!

Sorry double post. Ahh screw it.

Iblis: Please clarify....I need input, good or bad. Regards.

Listen, bbeck, this is getting to be cyber stalking. Can't you get it through your head it ain't gonna happen? Let's cut it out with the constant comments about how you 'might be interested' in me, the bad come-ons: "My magic watch says you aren't wearing any underpants. Oh, you are? Must be an hour fast!" Please, does that line ever work?

We've shared some laughs, had a couple moments on a few comments threads, sure. And I won't deny it (how could I?) I felt it something happen between us too, but that's as far as it goes - crazy moments. Maybe one day, after I proved to the so called 'scientific establishment' that there's no reason gravy can't be a shampoo (AND a conditioner!) then we'll talk. But for now, try to remember you're married, okay?

OC, just look up thread.

Iblis: Saw that. Tend to agree, but I didn't start this. Thanks.

Good GRIEF, Ray, that's the last time I'm going to try to spare your feelings! In truth, there's no amount of money that could truly make me interested.

Well, okay, there is, but I'm pretty darn sure you won't ever have it, not even after the gravy/shampoo breakthrough.

Now, excuse me while I go find someone else to stalk.

Later,
bbeck

YO ACE - How about an occasionl space for posting just plain jokes or comedy routines? (Tell me Two-Dogs-Fucking, why do you ask?) We all know you steal jokes from other websites and pretend their your own, why not let us do it too? Tell me Two-Dogs-Fucking, why do you ask?

Maybe a joke contest, or maybe the best and worst song lyrics?

But tell me TWO-DOGS-FUCKING, why do you ask?

Oddly enough, just after I read that Keith Olbermann is a fucking cocksucker, I note that there are 69 comments.

Steve Allen once said that comedy had devloved into witless put downs and cheap shots

And thank goodness it did, too, otherwise I'd get no traffic at all.

Ray and bbeck,

Get a room or I'll put the hose on you.

re: Cocksucker v. pussy

Isn't there a difference between using cocksucker as put-down and referring to, um, women generally as "pussy"? Yeah, I did it in a comment meant to be funny, playing off of Ray's, but I still thought that was crude, even for me.

So that's why I edited.

Old Coot...I saw that flame job Bill did on you yesterday (at least I think it was yesterday) and went back through the entire thread thinking I had missed something. When I couldn't find it, I wrote it off to 'bad blood' between the two of you.

As you relate the story...it seems so minor as to be totally insignificant.

Don't sweat the small stuff. Ace's is the place to be.

I don't know Ace, but I'm having a hell of a time getting my pussy to learn cocksucking.

Oh, and her first language is Chinese, so she giggles whenever I say "pussy."

"...she giggles whenever I say "pussy"

I think pussy sounds like the chinese word for 'machine gun fart' but I could be wrong.

"Get a room or I'll put the hose on you."

Okay, so after reading my very benign un-sexual last post, what can I say that WON'T sound like a come-on? I swear, I have this problem in real life, too. It's a curse, man.

As for the use of certain words, may I opine: Ace, this is YOUR SITE. You can say whatever you want and can edit posters however you want. If people have a problem with that, they can go elsewhere. If people seem to think that's some kind of double standard (which, incidentally, it isn't), then perhaps it's time to realize that life is not fair.

And if people don't like reading some posters who post unreadable crap -- like Cedarford -- then do what I do and don't read them so you're not tempted to respond so negatively you make the comments boring. People obviously don't like such posters -- like Cedarford -- so they're not here for the camaradarie, they're here to be a pain in Ace's tail and goading people into trashing the comments section. You will never EVER be able to talk sense into folks like that.

Later,
bbeck

bbeck- I'm not here to be a pain. I just communicate from a different perspective. And being in a sphere of comraderie with narrow-minded little you would be as pleasurable as being in a car with the family dog deciding now was a great time to begin vomiting up hairballs.

bbeck...Well Said!!!

"I just communicate from a different perspective"

This would be the head-up-the-ass perspective in case anybody was wondering.

Old Coot is lying:

Since yesterday, there's only been one other (indirect) contact with Bill, I saw something about him on another blog (can't remember which one, but not Ace's) regarding a spat he was having with someone/something called SekiMori (sp?). I posted a gentle comment there about being careful not to get Bill angry for fear of banning. I didn't go back there to see if that generated any response.

One interaction:
http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/054317.php

Two interactions:
http://www.texasnative.com/weblog/2004/11/i-blame-dean.html

three interactions:
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000382.html

Just on that ONE issue. And there are at least 3-4 more posts that day that I can also provide as an example. He has subsequently taken multiple shots at me on various blogs, culminating in yesterday's "cute" swipe. He's like a dog with a very old bone.

So to answer his question:

Am I "stalking" Bill?

yes, you were. Feeling the compulsion to obsessively read my site, then take the time to insert your criticism about me booting you, on every blog that trackbacked to me in reference to an unrelated business dispute, looks a lot like stalking to me. And subsequently nursing this grudge because I kicked you out is going to get an ANALOGY about someone coming into your house and soiling your carpet and your wife.

Do you understand what an analogy is? Blog is a home, insulting me is like banging my wife and shitting on my carpet, thus the ability to kick you out. "Not the brightest bulb on the tree" indeed.

As for your sequence of events - "I e-mailed a conciliatory note," that's not exactly how I recall it, and given how superior my memory has proved to be on the above "interactions," who should one put their money on?

I booted you for two swipes (one the condescending "I pray you wake up") and primarily because I found your bloviation - on a variety of topics - intellectually shallow and condescendingly arrogant. When you couldn't take my return fire and whined, I lost patience for you.

Ace has a very inclusive commenting board. His only stated regulation is about threats of violence (which you just broke with this gem: "And PS, if Bill really wants my address he can e-mail me and I'll give it to him, but fair warning: his dental insurance should be in full force before he arrives. ").

OMy blog is different - I like to show trolls - right and left wing - off the boards, especially when I was policing 200 - 300 comments per day prior to the election.

So my advice to you, Old Coot, is get the Hell over it. And can the little boy lost routine:

What on earth would cause him to react the way he did? From what I've seen in this forum, you folks aren't afraid to take a dump on me if I need it. Fire away. Thanks for listening.

Otherwise, I'll be happy to discuss dental insurance.

OC, you were just the first target in a now target rich environment. Ha! If it was Ce-da-freak posting first, it would've been him.

And Hundred Percenter:

Ok. But Bill from INDC still sounds very Kerryesque and aloof.

Sort of like noted wishy-washy liberal Charles Krauthammer?

ACE
"Steve Allen once said that comedy had devloved into witless put downs and cheap shots

And thank goodness it did, too, otherwise I'd get no traffic at all."

Very Groucho!

OK, maybe so, but I'd rather read about why the chicken crossed the street than whoopie-cushion-wit and juvenile posts. I mean really folks, aren't you people tired of grade-school humor?

PS - Besides, we both know there are really only two people on this website ACE, you and me. You can't fake me out with all the long boring tete-a-tete you try to fake me out with.

ACE IS THE PLACE

"This would be the head-up-the-ass perspective in case anybody was wondering."

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, BF*, for bringing a smile, during an otherwise horrible week.

*who, by the way, is NOT a cocksucker (most likely, anyway... of course, if he WANTED to be one, not that there's anything wrong with that, I would still feel that same way about him, which is generally good, but not TOO GOOD, if you know what I mean, because obviously I'm not a cocksucker- even Dickie and Cedarford admit that).

I see Cedarford is crying, nay, positively WEEPING for attention again. I still don't read the wanker's drivel nor should anyone else.

And Windrider, thank you. :)

Later,
bbeck

re: Cocksucker v. pussy

Isn't there a difference between using cocksucker as put-down and referring to, um, women generally as "pussy"? Yeah, I did it in a comment meant to be funny, playing off of Ray's, but I still thought that was crude, even for me.

So that's why I edited.

I was just looking at which profanity was spelled out and which was masked. I'd probably agree there's a difference if I weren't giggling so hard at the apparent left-handed stab at delicacy. No criticism intended.

My last on this, I promise.

The links that Bill provide are probably correct. They refer to the Sekimori dustup I had mentioned. Read them, they are gentle. Interesting that Bill failed to put links to my actual posts on his blog which were equally gentle. Perhaps says something about his honesty.

Here are cut & pasted contents of my e-mails to and from Bill regarding the original squabble. Sorry, they are in reverse order. Some redactions made to remove my name which I (foolishly) provided so as not to appear to be hiding behind "Old Coot" . I'll leave it up to the reader as to whether or not I ate enough dirt trying to figure out what had gone wrong.

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Bill: Thanks for your response; my last on this: I probably do get hyperbolic thinking about Kedwards in the White House and whenever the MSM tells me something these days, I template it with Rathergate.

If the words "Bill, I pray you wake up" were taken as a personal insult, I truly apologize...it was sort of intended
for everyone who might be relaxing based on poll data, and obviously you won't be among those.
Regrettably (for me), you won't hear from me again (by e-mail or on your excellent blog). Simply put, I agree that when invited into someone's blog, one should be polite (i.e. no obscenities, no flaming, etc.), however I think that the host should be reasonably forgiving of a stranger, especially on his first visit; my thin skin does not want the discomfort of having to tip-toe around trying to guess what the your house rules are.

Regards, Old Coot
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--- Bill from INDC wrote:
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> I couldn't tell if you were joking, because your comment was hyperbolic. On your comeback, you said "Bill, I pray you wake up." Simply put, no one talks to me like that on my blog.
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Bill: Have been and will continue to be a fan of your excellent blog. Don't think my little post deserved such a nasty whack-back. Is my skin too thin or was your fuse too short? Regards, (name deleted) aka The Old Coot.
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Flame away, Bill, I'm done. But your cred might improve if you would put up links to what started this.

Old Coot -

Interesting that Bill failed to put links to my actual posts on his blog which were equally gentle.

Running a blog that had 1500 posts prior to the election, I have no idea what topic the comments were on, whereas the day you bugged me about Sekimori is easily searchable. This is why I have not dug them up.

Obviously your e-mails above were gentle (as was my response), though no mention of banning buttresses my assertion that I didn't boot you for one offense ("I pray you wake up.").

In addition, aside from booting you, my extreme dislike for you was cemented the day that you decided to insert your whiny $.02 into a biz dispute, on various blogs, and how you have continued nursing your grudge on this blog and others.

So for the last time, get over it, or expect more analogies involving stained carpet, your wife's back door and/or other colorful vernacular.
One thing that I cannot stand is people that pick a fight and then play like an injured lamb when they suffer retaliation.

You easily fit this profile.

Glad everybody's buried the hatchet.

And PS -

You might not get this reference, but your charming inability to work that google thing, combined with your self-deprecating form, followed by your minimally savvy access to ancient e-mails that I don't even know how I'd find, reminds me of the Phil Hartman SNL skit about Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer:

"I'm just a simple Old Coot, not much for your magic search engines, or fancy blog flame wars. Was I wrong to ever-so-gently tell Bill from INDC that I kindly disagreed with him about his internet letter? In my very kind, kind way? Was this a violation of your modern and mysterious "web blog" etiquette? Again, as just a simple old coot and retired serviceman with a family I adore, I can't fathom your confusing high tech blogging ways.

But one thing I do know: according to the contents of my gmail saved items folder, on October 11th at 3PM Bill from INDC wrote ..."

Hey Bill? Shut it.

Hey Bill? Shut it.

Mega Dittos!

Old Coot - I don't know what this deal is about, but can you be gracious and just shut it down?

72VIRGINS: Please see my last post...I did shut it down, at least from my end.

Hell Ace, the only reason I write these things anymore is to see if I can make you laugh.

Great site! Keep it running!

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