Well, alright then - a result based on such information would serve a useful purpose (getting rid of a shyster), without hindering others.

Of course, the howling and moaning at his exit from academia, should such exit occur, will still be focused on some bullshit violation of his freedom of expression, but such howls won't pass the giggle test.

[Post deleted for unnecessary attack on Jeff Goldstein, who I think is principled but wrong on this controversary. -- ace]

He made up scurrilous bullshit about the US Army? Make him head of CNN!

Now they can frag the f*cker.

Most times, the university goes after conservatives for "intolerant speech." I just didn't want a Churchill dismissal based on an academic speech issue to give the leftist orthodoxy any ammunition with which to justify attacks.

I have about 6 threads on the subject, Ron. Why not leave your thoughts in one of those?

Just so you know, I deleted that comment, Jeff.

CU sez Cya, Kemosabe.

So he's got tenure and a contract.

How about shipping him off to open a new one-man UC campus in Darfur? Ivory Coast? Mogadishu? Port au Prince?

Let's see how the Janjaweed like some fresh long pork.

Jeff Goldstein is principled?

Firing him with no other reason than his pro-terrorist statements in no way compromises his first amendment rights. His rights give him the right to say whatever but in no way guarantee him a paid venue to do it. This latest revealtion is great, but unnecessary. Saying otherwise would be like saying you violated Ron's rights by deleting his post. You didn't.

If anyone cares, over at LGF there have been several Churchill threads, and the Dershowitz thread from this morning is turning into one. There are many tasty links. Look under the nics Sarah D., Ariana, mommydoc and (ahem) Dianna.

By the way, I need to acknowlege my debt to lauraw for an initial link that led to some fruitful lines of investigation. I owe her, and I have made it a point to acknowlege that she found the link first almost every time I mentioned it.

Jeff Goldstein is principled?

Behind the po-faced postmodern facade, yes. Quite so. It strikes me as silly for any fan of Ace to hate on Goldstein, since I've always seen them as alternating faces of the conservative avatar of Vishnu, if you dig my cod-Hindu drift.

I can DEFINITELY emotionally understand Ace's point of view, but in the end sided with Jeff on this issue. Now everybody's happy, 'cause the fucker can be taken down for perfectly legitimate academic reasons. I'd be interested in knowing what "Ron" said, by the way...I wish that hadn't been deleted. I think these comment sections are perfectly capable of self-correction.

What the hell is a cod-Hindu ? Is it some kind of oceanic cult that worships a sacred seacow?

What could Ron have said that was worse than Cedarfords rant about the Evil of Goldsteins Jew semen?

Was Cedarford banned?

Cedarford? Yeah, I fucked him. LIKE A VIKING!

/ADC

Sorry, I was channeling the Diceman there for a minute. I'll try not to let it happen again.

If you miss cedartroll you can enjoy watching him get bitch slapped over at the belmont club. One of the commenters even linked Ace's site (specifically the Ward Churchill thread from the other day) to prove what a sleaze ball cedartroll is. But please, when you're done, leave him over there. Thank you.

Spewfan -

I can take a slapping from a simpering 'lil bitch like you.

The facts still stand. Ward Churchill is mentored by a pack of red diaper babies led by the likes of Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, and Nancy Rabinowitz. They backed his books of delirium financially, gave him intros of lavish praise, set up his lucrative speaking tours. And, as the investigation focuses on how Churchill could ever be hired, granted tenure, and advance to Department Head despite 2 matchbook degrees and being unable to produce a Master's thesis - we will see if those red diaper babies have anything to do with it.

20,000 Amish goat lovers - As for Jeff G's "insidious Jewish sperm", his words, not mine. I merely explored (crassly & crudely) the futility of his being likely to continue his line with his "insidious Jewish sperm". When 1/2 the Jewish women prefer non-Jewish mates, guys like Jeff are in trouble.

Damn you Cedarford-you found me out.
19,999 more to go...

Actually, Ward Churchill and Cedarford have something in common.

Prior to this incident, Mr. Churchill's scholarly reputation was based mainly on a squalid tract called "A Little Matter of Genocide" (1997), in which he argued that the murder of European Jews was not at all a "fixed policy objective of the Nazis" and accused Jews of seeking to monopolize for themselves all that beautiful Holocaust suffering that other groups would very much like, ex post facto, to share.

He argued that Jewish "exclusivism" had nearly erased from history the victims of other genocidal campaigns, and that Jewish scholars stressed the Holocaust in order to "construct a conceptual screen behind which to hide the realities of Israel's ongoing genocide against the Palestinian population."

He not only likened Jewish scholars who have argued for the unique character of the Holocaust to neo-Nazi Holocaust deniers, he said that the Jews are worse than the latter-day Nazis because "those who deny the Holocaust, after all, focus their distortion upon one target. Those [Jewish scholars] who deny all holocausts other than that of the Jews have the same effect upon many."

Given the current academic atmosphere, it is a safe bet that what might delicately be called Mr.Churchill's shortage of sympathy in the Jewish direction made him a strong candidate to head Colorado's Ethnic Studies program.

I LOVE AMISH!!!!! He is like the pesky little brother that all of my freinds had that would keep pestering you and bothering you but you secretly really enjoyed having around.