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January 26, 2005

Democrats To Vote Rice In Despite "Reservations" [Say Anything]

It looks like Rice is going to get the nod from an "overwhelming" majority in the Senate.

WASHINGTON - Despite strong Democratic dissent, Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's trusted national security aide and a main architect of his policies on Iraq and the war on terror, appears headed to overwhelming Senate approval as the next secretary of state.

Once approved, Rice, 50, will replace Colin Powell and become the first black woman to serve as the nation's top diplomat.

A dozen or so Democrats were lined up to vote against her Wednesday. Probably as many others intended to yield to President Bush's right to pick his own Cabinet even though they, too, harbored serious doubts about Iraq policy.

Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., said he would support the president's choice despite reservations about Rice's performance on Iraq. "She did no more than any other member of the administration, but they all misled," Biden told CBS' "The Early Show" on Wednesday.

The sort of hedging put on display by Sen. Biden in that last paragraph absolutely drives me up the wall. If they don't like Rice they should vote against her. This whole "Well she's a big fat lying-liar, but I'll probably vote for her anyway" thing is ridiculous.

Its typical. If Rice goes on to do something truly historic all these Senators can point back and say "See, I knew she had it in her. I voted for her." But if she falls into controversy they can point back and say "I voted for her, but I had my reservations. See when I called her a big fat lying-liar?"

Not that this whole Democrat opposition to Rice isn't just for show anyway. These people have to look like they're doing something after the thorough trouncing they received in November.

[Cross-posted at Say Anything]


posted by Ace at 09:42 AM
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You're silly.

Don't you know? Being called a "big fat lying-liar" is a badge of honor in the Democratic Party.

Or, at least it was in 1998.

I dunno; some things may have changed since then.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge on January 26, 2005 10:19 AM

Perfect analysis. It's political positioning to cover whatever happens in the future.

Posted by: Jason on January 26, 2005 10:29 AM

Of course, this is the party of "I voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it" so you kinda get what you get.

Posted by: Steve L. on January 26, 2005 11:29 AM

I liked the comment that the opinionjournal.com's "Best of the Web Today" column had about Ted Kennedy's opposition: That it wouldn't be the first time he tried to sink a woman!

Seriously, I think at least some of the opposition is based on the fact that she is a black female Republican. You wouldn't want to let the black community show how someone like that can succeed in the Republican Party, much less go on to higher office, now would you?

Posted by: Ron on January 26, 2005 11:50 AM

Sen. Ted accuses GW of the same treachery his brother commited as prez. You'd think the Kennedy's would learn to keep their yaps shut sometime, but I guess one has to be sober enough to realize it's open first...

Posted by: Carlos on January 26, 2005 12:02 PM

I could have sworn that war resolution said pretty clearly that CONGRESS CONCLUDED that Iraq had WMD.

"Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations'; "

Yep, it says that. Doesn't say Condi and Bush told us. "Congress concluded" sounds pretty damn clear to me. Maybe they should actually read these bills before they sign them.........Naaaaah, that would mean doing their jobs. It's a pretty interesting read, that law passed by both house that DIRECTED presidnt Bush to take action.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/bliraqreshouse.htm
They signed it, it's about time they read it. If they are the ones that are going to be making our laws it's also time that someone pointed out to them they make the laws, the president takes orders from them, not the other way around.

Posted by: Bullwinkle on January 26, 2005 12:45 PM
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