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September 15, 2004
As Predicted: CBS News Executes Plan B"The truth of these documents lies in the signatures and in the content, not just the typeface and the font-style. Let me emphasize once again, these are not exact sciences. Not like DNA or fingerprints." He is not-very-skillfully attempting to downplay the actual documents, in favor of a discussion of "their contents." In other words-- the documents may be forged, but they were forged to tell "the truth." As many correspondents here have noted: This was also claimed by many in the liberal media in response to Fahrenheit 9-11. Sure, the film may be technically dishonest and misleading in parts; but that dishonesty is in service of a "higher truth." Apparently CBS News will now expressly be pursuing "the higher truth" and de-emphasizing trivial "facts" and "verifiable evidence." I have to say again: I did not seriously believe anyone would dare make such an argument a couple of days ago when I rhetorically postulated that this would be the next step. But a week ago, I didn't believe a lot things I now understand to be the case. As I've said, the epitaph of this story will be Everything was much worse than it seemed, even if you thought it was all pretty shoddy to begin with. posted by Ace at 03:31 PM
CommentsHannity just said the CBS press release has been *once* *again* rescheduled, this time for 5 pm ET. Posted by: Tongue Boy on September 15, 2004 03:42 PM
It's kind of like what I told the judge that one time: "The truth of these $20 bills, Your Honor, lies in the denomination, not in the purple ink or the portrait of John Wilkes Booth on the front." Posted by: Paul Zrimsek on September 15, 2004 03:44 PM
As the poet asked, "how can we separate the dancer from the dance?" How can we possibly evaluate the truth value of the content independent of the fact that they were created by a non-author, much later, with a biased view? By the way, is this the new standard that CBS will be using when the shoe is on the other foot? When CBS is investigating? Posted by: John S on September 15, 2004 03:48 PM
CBS: These documents are fake, but it doesn't matter, the stuff about Bush is true anyway. Public: How do you know it's true? CBS: These documents say so. Public: But they're forgeries. CBS: Maybe they are forgeries, but it doesn't matter, the stuff about Bush is true anyway. Rinse. Repeat. Posted by: hobgoblin on September 15, 2004 03:55 PM
Faithfully PARAPHRASED from the commie liberal afternoon radio show in my area: 'Its not really conclusive yet that these were forged...but if its true, CBS is committing the same sin that Bush did before going to war...listening to the evidence that he liked and disregarding the rest...' The commentatore went on to mention that Killian's secretary is saying the content is true, though the memos were forged. THEY NEVER STOP. WITH THE BULLSHIT. Posted by: lauraw on September 15, 2004 04:02 PM
I'm beginning to think that Rather's daughter and Ben Barnes (identified as a key document authenticator) are the principal links to the source, and her political career in the leftward wing of the DemonRatic Party is directly on the line and this forged smear is the price of her admission. In any case, they will both be subject to the most exquisitely detailed microscopic inspections by bloggers and others at every future possibility. Posted by: recon on September 15, 2004 04:04 PM
Check out Lucianne. Your prediction confirmed. Posted by: A on September 15, 2004 04:15 PM
If CBS manages to broaden this into a referendum on their entire story... they are still sunk. Did they happen to mention that (besides their key documents being faked) one of their key witnesses has jumped ship, and the other two are _major_ Kerry supporters with scandal ridden pasts. Its beyond hypocricy that CBS is investigating the political affiliations of opposing document examiners when they never bothered to mention that Ben Barnes is a Kerry campaign vice-chair. That is beyond bias, that is blatant willful manipulation of the political process. CBS is opening an even bigger can of worms. Look for the rats to start jumping ship, every peice of evidence they can produce is tainted badly. They will eventually be left with their unnamed sources and their phony documents and claiming that is enough. No chance. Posted by: Mark Buehner on September 15, 2004 04:18 PM
I'm Ok Your Ok. Do you remember that book on Transactional Analysis; The Parent, the Adult and the Child? How about CBS, the Blogosphere and the Democrats: Parent: Focus on a few documents in a story with bigger questions is irrelevant; I decide what's important and you better listen to me. Adult: Speaking from the perspective of "journalism" isn't it the responsibility of a "Reporter" to ensure what is put forth as "News" is factually correct; We think truth is relevant. Child: It's not fair, everytime we want to "do something" those pajama wearing neocons piss on our parade; You won't let us have our parade and it's not fair!?. What's going on here is quite obvious. Posted by: PatrickDavid on September 15, 2004 04:19 PM
I just peaked at Lucianne's site. You have got be shitting me. If CBS honestly believes that this will fly with anyone actually a member of Michael Moore's fan club, then the CBS logo needs to replace Oliver Willis's image on the Kool-Aid. Posted by: physics geek on September 15, 2004 04:21 PM
Hey, didn't the LAPD and DA try the same thing with OJ? Since they really, really believed he was guilty, it was perfectly appropriate for the detectives to plant blood evidence to support that truth. Oh, wait a minute. That kind of backfired on them too, didn't it? Posted by: Dacotti on September 15, 2004 04:54 PM
Not an exact science? Who else does he think he's kidding? Especially in older typewriters, the mechanical quirks of usage, metal fatigue, nicks and surface scratches on a font, have served to help convict more than one ne'er-do-well. Whoever is offering the $10,000 for someone who can reproduce the memo on an old typewriter should feel fairly safe. I hope CBS gives an old Olympia typewriter to Dan as a going away present. Posted by: Joan of Argghh! on September 15, 2004 05:05 PM
This has to be at least Plan F. Posted by: Al on September 15, 2004 05:26 PM
8/15/04 Mr. Rather, Catch up please. The story has long since moved past the phase where one proves the documents fraudulent. They are fakes, and LAST WEEK this was proved (by people wearing pajamas) in cyberspace, planet blogosphere. Events are now unfolding at the virtual speed of the pajama-hadeen typing with computer keyboards not fossilized “journalists” pecking at vintage typewriters. Time in cyber-reality unfolds in seconds to minutes, not days to weeks. The story is now about how fakes got on the air as part of a "news story" in development for five years? Would you care to answer this question? I thought not. Then I guess President Bush is not obligated to answer your “questions.” Queries based on faulty data are faulty. The president of CBS, Andrew Heyward, no longer even tries to contend that the documents are authentic. He describes them as “accurate” (sic). By this he means that they may be fakes, but the information is (in the opinion of CBS) accurate, so it doesn't matter if Lt. Colonel Killian wrote them or not. Instead, what matters to CBS is that they believe if he had actually written documents about these issues (which genuine documents they do not have), the content would have been consistent with the content of the documents that they do have (which were written by anonymous). Additionally, the contents of these supposed documents (for which CBS has been desperately and clumsily searching for many years) would be identical to the opinions of Mr. Rather, Mr. Heyward, and CBS, perfectly fitting the gaping hole of credibility in their five-year-old story. BUT, as CBS does not have those increasingly hypothetical authentic documents, the "accurate" papers they do have DO NOT FIT the yawning chasm of veracity needed to perfect their otherwise incomplete scoop (actually the old “news” upon which they have been fixated for half a decade). There are still people looking for El Derodo, Shangri-La, and the Lost Dutchman’s Mine, so Mr. Rather, Mr. Heyward, and CBS are in like company following their “accurate” maps/documents and chasing a futile fantasy. Lt. Colonel Killian, an authentic American hero, is not available to defend his honor, or set the record straight. He is deceased, which is incredulously advantageous for CBS. The documents were written recently in MS Word, and not in 1972 and 1973. While they contain many clumsy mistakes and inaccuracies, there are allusions in the documents to real facts as established by real documents. MY SAINTED GRANNY, this is historical fiction. CBS is writing a “tell all” historical novel and not a “news” story. Is this the basis of a mid-autumn historical docu-drama? You bet your sweet pajamas, but thankfully, CBS “News” is not the sole author of the script. Authentic Journalists, weblogers, real participants in the actual events of 1972 and 1973, and scandalized authorities/experts are rewriting the clumsy plot scripted by CBS. The real story is developing and circulating all around us, much to the bewilderment and distress of Mr. Rather and his staff. There is nothing they can do to close Pandora’s Box. Box? What Box? They are not clever enough to trick the Genie back into the bottle. Ignore those Genies behind the curtain. Mr. Rather and Mr. Heyward, using fiction as the basis for questions about Mr. Bush’s Texas National Guard record is like blaming ones spouse for doing something wrong in a dream. Any American voter who would fall for this contemptible fraud had already decided to vote for Mr. Kerry in the first place. This story is a coffin being built by CBS to bury its long dead and rotting credibility. The longer it stays at the center of the stage for this sad burlesque show, and the longer CBS continues to defend a story based on fictions, the longer the pajama-clad weblogers, and REAL journalist will continue to drive nails into it. Lonnie Kendall “Caveat, this message was created in MS Word, and proud of it.” Posted by: Lonnie Kendall on September 15, 2004 11:21 PM
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