Intermarkets' Privacy Policy Support
Donate to Ace of Spades HQ! Recent Entries
Daily Tech News 24 November 2024
Open Thread Saturday Night Movie Thread [moviegique]: Potpourri Hobby Thread - November 23, 2024 [TRex] Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 23 Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Nov. 23 O Canada, O Montreal Saturday Classical Coffee Break & Prayer Revival Daily Tech News 23 November 2024 The ONTs Of Others Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024 Captain Hate 2023 moon_over_vermont 2023 westminsterdogshow 2023 Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022 Dave In Texas 2022 Jesse in D.C. 2022 OregonMuse 2022 redc1c4 2021 Tami 2021 Chavez the Hugo 2020 Ibguy 2020 Rickl 2019 Joffen 2014 AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published.
Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups
|
« The Weekend Hobby Thread |
Main
| Saturday Overnight Open Thread (3/12/22) $pring Ahead Bull $h!t Edition »
March 12, 2022
Saturday Evening Movie Thread: Mystery Science Theater 3000: Santo in the Treasure of Dracula [moviegique]And just as mysteriously as they arrived, the passport requirements vanished. I was actually able to go see a movie, sans mask, sans documents, with the only downside being it was the Norwegian contender for best international picture, The Worst Person in the World. I kid (somewhat) but it's not exactly a crowd-pleaser. Tomorrow I will be seeing a Korean double-feature (the political thriller Kingmaker and In Our Prime, which appears to be a Korean Good Will Hunting) and Thursday I've got The Quiet Man. Could things be returning to normal? Well, at least until they figure out how to screw them up again, anyway. Instant classic: The robot wrestler sketch. Last Friday, on the other hand, was the premiere/beta of season 13 of the ever abiding "Mystery Science Theater 3000" and the "Gizmoplex" which is a sort of streaming service/virtual theater concept. For those unfamiliar with the show, it took the concept of movie "riffing", where an existing filmed entertainment is played and humorous comments are made over the film's original soundtrack and mainstreamed it by setting up a flimsy but vital framing story: That of a man shot into space by mad scientists and forced to watch these movies as part of their evil experiment. Over the series' initial 11-year-run it had many homes—starting with a copyright-law-dubious season 0 on a local Minneapolis UHF channel, leading to the Comedy Channel which was absorbed by Comedy Central, and finally to the SciFi channel—and many cast changes. When it was canceled after season ten, many attempts were made to revive the general format with and without a framing story. The three main riffers of the last MST3K seasons, Michael J. Nelson, Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett went on to do "Film Crew" and then found success with "Rifftrax", which provides pure riffs both integrated with movies and—through an ingenious app—allows you to play the commentary over films you already own unriffed. (This also gets around the prohibitive licensing issues for many movies.) Trace Beaulieu and Frank Conniff have been touring and recording as "The Mads are Back" since 2015. MST3K creator Joel Hodgson himself refurbished the concept in 2007 with the fairly successful "Cinematic Titanic", reuniting himself, Beaulieu and Conniff, and MST alumni Mary Jo Pehl and J. Elvis Weinstein (who started with season 0 of the show at age 17!). (L-to-R) Hodgson, Weinstein, Pehl, Beaulieu and Conniff (Cinematic Titanic promo) In 2015, 16 1/2 years after the show's "final" cancellation, creator Joel Hodgson—having spent half a decade acquiring rights and clearing a path—announced a Kickstarter to bring back MST3K. This would raise a record $5.76M to create new episodes with a new cast for Netflix. Setting aside all the differences that a couple decades will make, season 11 must not have been what Netflix wanted, since season 12 was streamlined for binge watching: Six movies released all at once, for back-to-back viewing in a gimmick called "The Gauntlet". Exeunt Netflix. Last year, Joel launched another Kickstarter, racked up another $6.5M and started on season 13: 13 episodes plus a concept called the Gizmoplex, which most people look at and say "Oh, it's a streaming service," but there's a distinct emphasis on community experience. More on that in a bit. Free of any kind of network meddling, but encumbered by lockdowns, Hogdson & Co. nonetheless managed to film all 13 episodes in under a year, and made the first episode available on March 4th, 2022— A riff based on the Mexican wrestling "classic" Santo in the Treasure of Dracula, wherein the titular Santo invents time-travel, sends a girl back to her past life to discover she was romantically involved with a Dracula and that said Dracula had a treasure they try to retrieve in current day 1969 "to help the children". I set that apart because I don't want anyone to think I'm making it up. It's pure MST3K glory, taking an insane movie and just running with the various concepts and cultural oddities therein. It's made all the more wonderful by the fact that El Santo was a kind of Mexican legend and a decent fellow, and the only quality print remaining is "the European cut" which features a lot of nudity El Santo did not approve of. (He was a friend to all the children!) With all the different riffing ventures, there is of course some overlap in movie choices but Santo is just very MST3K. Rifftrax, by contrast, does a lot of popular films. It is, for example, the only way I would (and have) watched the Twilight series. Rifftrax also does a lot of infamous cult movies (recently, for example, they took on the Canadian microbudget/wth-is-this flick Feeders). I don't see the main three rifffers doing Mexican wrestling pictures. (MSTie alumni Pehl and Bridget Jones Nelson get a lot of mileage out of old Sherlock Holmes and teen-sploitation films under the Rifftrax banner so I could see them doing it.) The Netflix years got mixed reviews from fans of the old show and while I liked them, this felt like real MST3K. This episode paces jokes more like the original run. That's important, I think. The movie has to have enough room to breathe on its own; this makes the riffs funnier when they come. It feels less frenetic. The new riffers (Jonah Ray, Hampton Yount, Baron Vaughn) are fairly seasoned by this point and much more comfortable. This season will also feature episodes with the latest "experiment" subject played by the charming Emily Marsh, as well as new voices for the robots, who I believe all worked together on the live tour. (L-to-R) Crow, Hampton, Jonah, Baron, Tom Servo The Netflix era had one fewer host sketch, which season 13 has restored. This also helps the pace. One serious flaw with Rifftrax, for my taste, is that sometimes you really, really need a break from the film. It's hard to watch Manos: The Hands of Fate straight through with no interruptions! Also, the sketches allow the crew to develop both the show universe and the in-movie gags. This episode featured an instant classic: a sketch where Crow (Yount) and Tom Servo (Vaughn) are being "interviewed" by '80s era wrestling announcer (Ray) and say increasingly nice things about each other in an increasingly belligerent manner. Due to the lockdowns, the visuals are hampered by having everyone in front of a green screen: A critical part of the charm of MST3K has always been a reliance on low-budget models and sets reminiscent of the movies being riffed. Nonetheless, the joy over having a new episode and the episode being such a high quality, generally overrides the misgivings over details like this. Now, the Gizmoplex? That's another story. Historically, it's the sort of thing that has never worked. That is to say, it is in part an attempt to create an experience out of what people commonly view as interface elements. The idea that you can browse in the lobby hang on in the lobby or have an avatar in the theater has not been one that has caught on much in the past although the emphasis here is very much on "a place you can bring your friends to share experiences with", and this might be the definitive factor. It reminded me a whole lot of what Joe Bob Briggs aims for on "The Last Drive-In", with the show airing on Friday night and not being available for streaming right away, and during which Joe Bob and Darcy—mostly Darcy—interact with the viewers. In this context—that of a cult following that can throw together 7 figures for a new season—community building in a virtual space could work. We shall see if it does here. Indeed, the only thing that would concern me, were I Hodgson, would be that even though the latest campaign raised more money, the original "Bring Back" campaign in 2015 had a third more backers. Ultimately the idea is for the Gizmoplex to fund future MST3K seasons—something that seems somewhat unlikely to me to occur by the summer (where they'd have to have enough money to start making season 14), but I'm hopeful and curious. The new season should be available to the public in May. The Gizmoplex itself I suspect will roll out piecemeal over the next year. | Recent Comments
jim (in Hospital in Kalifornia):
"558 I'm still at work!
(makes working noises, p ..."
online gay video chat: "Nordyke, Kimberly (November 13, 2007). "'Kardashia ..." jim (in Hospital in Kalifornia): "I felt fine waking up. Wondering if sensor issue o ..." taboo family sex: "Big butted lodge maid offers a blowjob to a reside ..." 543567.xyz: "It's true that people in industrialized nations te ..." JQ: "Poor Puddleglum.. stuck at w0rk on a Caturday Nigh ..." Puddleglum at work: "I'm still at work! (makes working noises, push ..." Deplorable Ian Galt: "I watched a 50 minute video on why Africa sucks so ..." JQ: "Why is Kamala not invoking the 25th Amendment? Po ..." COMountainMarie : "Jeez you guys... Hi JQ... Rest well, Jim! Donja ..." Deplorable Ian Galt: "The Bears losing to the Packers was a pisser, lol. ..." The Man from Athens : "Why is Kamala not invoking the 25th Amendment? ..." Recent Entries
Daily Tech News 24 November 2024
Open Thread Saturday Night Movie Thread [moviegique]: Potpourri Hobby Thread - November 23, 2024 [TRex] Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 23 Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Nov. 23 O Canada, O Montreal Saturday Classical Coffee Break & Prayer Revival Daily Tech News 23 November 2024 The ONTs Of Others Search
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Primary Document: The Audio
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings) George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) |