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June 03, 2011

Could "Ginger Lee" Really Have Mistaken a "Pro Forma" Message For a Personalized DM?
Update: How Did I Miss This? Ginger Lee Said The Magic "Please DM Me" Words

Corrected Post: If you saw this post flash for one second, well, ignore it. It is retracted, and wrong. I had meant to put it into draft, but hit "Publish" instead. #Hacked! #MyToasterIsStillLoyal

Ginger Lee did not delete that tweet. It appeared to be missing from the timeline, but that was a glitch. It's still there.

Alas, I thought @ezradulis was on to something, but he later noted it was just a glitch. Clicking on Pru Paine's screencap demonstrates that Ginger Lee did not delete it. It's still there.

However, I still want to know how an intelligent-appearing woman mistook a "pro-forma" message for a personalized DM.

I earlier came to the dispiriting conclusion that Anthony Weiner, a man I have never known to be anything less than 100% True-Blue honest, just might be lying about the "pro-forma" nature of his Tweets to "Miss Ginger Lee," who I see described as a "featured dancer" (audience draw stripper) but I think that means she Content Warning For Interview About Stripping, Adult Movies is an adult film model.

I'm not actually clear on whether she's an adult film model. I know the media only wants to call her a "stripper," but I believe that's to protect their poor abused Weiner.

The Daily Caller calls her porn star, of course.

Okay, so Weiner claims that a "pro forma" message was sent to Ginger Lee, who whether a stripper or a porn star, is, as he tends to like his followers, young, female, and cute. He claims that to the best of his recollection the "pro forma" message was something like "thanks for following, check for updates at anthonyweiner.com."

Here is how Ginger Lee responded to this "pro forma" message which said, Weiner claims, "Drink More Ovaltine," as Ralphie's secret-decoder ring message from Little Orphan Annie told him in A Christmas Story.

Later, to another WeinerFan (I guess), she described the tweet:

weinerGLstarwhy.jpg

That capture from here.

Now, if you watch that video (which isn't really bad, she just talks about stripping) or read her site, here's what I get from "Ginger Lee:" She is a woman of average-to-above-average intelligence. She is not dumb. I sort of actually like her blog. She has funny .gifs.

From the video, she does not appear to be, like many strippers or porn actresses, perpetually drunk and stoned. In that video appearance, she's stone cold sober.

So, this woman is at least fairly intelligent (I would say above-average intelligence) and does not appear to be boozehound or smackwhore.

Now, you tell me: Would this woman confuse an automated blow-off like "Thank you very much for taking an interest in Anthony Weiner. Please visit AnthonyWeiner.com for further news about Anthony Weiner" for a DM worth getting excited about, and talking about, and calling a "trifecta of win"?

Would she get from that "pro-forma" message the idea that he "likes her blog"?

If I got the sense from her that she is very dumb, or very substance-compromised, I could buy that.

But I get the opposite sense. I do not believe for one red hot second an intelligent, clear-minded woman could possibly mistake "Drink More Ovaltine" for a genuine personal message from Anthony Weiner.

Thanks to Ezra Dulis, who made fresh note of this Tweet.

Oh, and Prudence Paine was first with the Ginger Lee angle, I believe. She's got the caps, too.

As I say, it's not true that Ginger Lee deleted anything; you can click through Prudence's cap to see the tweet. (As I did myself five minutes ago.)

But I really do not understand how a reasonably intelligent woman was misled into thinking Anthony Weiner was really sending her a "trifecta of win" with "Please visit AnthonyWeiner.com."

May I Refresh The Witness' Recollection? In court, where a witness claims not to remember a past remark or document, or gets details of it wrong (perhaps... deliberately), you are allowed to "refresh the recollection" of the witness and present him with the documentized version of his past statements.

In this case, Anthony Weiner surely knew that people were talking up Ginger Lee. Surely. Surely he was tracking the blogs, and Pru Paine hit this early, and then so did the Daily Caller, and Dana Bash asked about it (IIRC), and everyone talked about it.

Ergo, Anthony Weiner must have "refreshed his recollection" by checking Ginger Lee's tweets, before his interviews.

He can see she does not report this as a "pro forma" message saying "Please visit AnthonyWeiner.com."

Ergo, when he claimed that, his memory was not mistaken. Even if it had been fuzzy earlier, he saw Ginger Lee's description of the DM, and thus would have "remembered" that he didn't just send a "pro forma" message.

And yet he's claimed it was just a pro forma message in like four interviews after refreshing his recollection and determining it was not pro forma at all.

So, he's lying. Duh.

One thing I can't get over is how people keep trying to make the facts square with Anthony Weiner's claims. People actually tell me "But Weiner says..."

Yeah? Weiner says? The guy who's lying every time he opens his mouth?

Why are we trying to make our theories fit the evolving lies he's telling us?

Is there some good reason to think he's telling the truth?

There's not. And there's plenty of evidence he's lying.

#Hacked! #WhoCanISue? Wooga hacked this into my Yfrog stream.

The Magic Words That Get A Follow From One Anthony Weiner: Note, above, that Anthony Weiner seems to have DM'd one Ginger Lee on March 12.

Telling her, according to her, he appreciates her "shout-outs" and likes her blog, and according to him, "Please visit AnthonyWeiner.com."

You want to hear what that "shout out" was?

Oh, it's a nice shout-out. The kind that gets a man's attention.

Here was the "shout out" Ginger Lee posted on March 1, 11 days before Weiner DM'd her back.

"I want to have sexual relations with Anthony Weiner," Ginger Lee wrote in a March 1 post.

That's the sort of thing that tends to get my attention. But Weiner is probably different, because he tells me he's so protective of his wife.

On March 13, after Weiner sent her a private message, Lee wrote: "you know it's a good day when you wake up to a [direct message] from @RepWeiner."

Interesting timing.

Now, later...

By May, Lee posted that she had "Weinermania!" and uploaded a picture of the lawmaker -- with a crayon heart framing his face -- and the words: "You're the only Weiner I need."

"'Is it too early in the day for me to start doing Anthony Weiner love?" Lee mused on May 25.

Two days later -- just as news that a crotch shot was sent from Weiner's Twitter account to a coed in Washington -- Lee posted, "Whoa. I get a dose of Anthony Weiner live before I go to work tonight. Weiner before work, me likey."

Poor Anthony Weiner! He's right! They'll just never get over that Weiner joke that haunts him!

Hmmmm.... Maybe the Comely Coed really wasn't supposed to get that DM. Maybe it was a double screw up.

Or maybe this is Anthony Weiner's "pro forma" message: Hey, I like you too! Nice Tweets! And, sidenote, here's a picture of my erection! LOL. ;)

Note: buzzion points out that that last message by Ginger Lee more than likely refers to a TV appearance by Weiner. She says a "live" dose.

Further, speaking of Pantomimes, she wouldn't act like that if at that point she realized a shitstorm was on the horizon. I am trying to find the time of this Tweet; I strongly suspect it was posted before the Tweet heard 'round the world, and therefore could not have been posted in response to that Tweet.

Yup: Strong suspicions almost completely confirmed; that last remark by Ginger Lee about a "live dose" is almost surely completely innocent, about a TV appearance.






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