Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com


Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups






















« Trump: I'll Be Making a "Big-League" Statement on the Border, Today or Tomorrow | Main | I Think That I Shall Never See, A Poem As Pretty As The ONT »
May 30, 2019

Did Robert Mueller Claim That If Not for the OLC Guidance Against Indicting a President, He Would Have Found That Trump Committed the Crime of Obstruction?

The left is pushing this idea -- as are the NeverTrumpers. (Including Brett Baier, former college frat-mate of Steve Hayes, and Chris Wallace, shrieking liberal hag.)

But is it true?

Why no, it's not true.

Which won't stop the Russia Truthers from claiming otherwise.

Charles Cooke is in a dispute with archliberal idiot (and ally of NeverTrump) Jonathan Chait.

[Chait suggests that] Mueller intended to send the message that he found clear evidence of obstruction but he was unable to say so because of the OLC rules.

Funnily enough, that had "crossed my mind." But also in my mind was what Bill Barr said pretty clearly during his Senate testimony (at 00:34:25):

Now, we first heard that the special counsel's decision not to decide the obstruction issue at the March 5th meeting when he came over to the department and we were frankly surprised that they were not going to reach a decision on obstruction. And we asked them a lot about the reasoning behind this and the basis for this. Special counsel Mueller stated three times to us in that meeting in response to our questioning that he emphatically was not saying that but for the OLP opinion he would have found obstruction. He said that in the future the facts of a case against a president might be such that a special counsel would recommend abandoning the OLC opinion but this is not such a case. We did not understand exactly why the special counsel was not reaching a decision.

This assertion was reiterated half an hour later, after Senator Grassley asked Barr for explicit confirmation of what Mueller had told him and his group (01:03:00):

Yes, he reiterated several times in the group meeting that he was not saying that but for the OLC opinion he would have found obstruction.

Chait, of course, immediately rushes to the claim that Barr is lying. (Anyone who disputes my a priori beliefs must be a liar -- and a blasphemer!)

Cooke answers that as well:

I’ll let Robert Mueller's office answer that question. Here’s a joint statement that it put out with the DOJ yesterday:

The Attorney General has previously stated that the Special Counsel repeatedly affirmed that he was not saying that, but for the OLC opinion, he would have found the President obstructed justice. The Special Counsel's report and his statement today made clear that the office concluded it would not reach a determination -- one way or the other -- about whether the President committed a crime. There is no conflict between these statements.

So Mueller admits he did say this -- or he admits that Barr's statement is true, which, then, indirectly admits that he said his determination was not due to the OLC guidance.

Next?

Oh, and Barr says that Mueller could have reached a conclusion on obstruction, and that the rule did not prohibit him. He remains confused, as we all do, as to why Muller chose to [do Democrats a huge favor and try to find some excuse for impeachment].



And, Open Thread.

I've got a bunch of posts ready for tomorrow so I'll just have to do the big stories that come out overnight/tomorrow morning, and otherwise, I'll have an easy day.

Unfortunately, a lot of the posts I have ready to go are of the sillier, throw-away variety.

But, like I said, I'll also do the Real Stories that come up tomorrow.

Cranking out posts to take a half-day Friday is TIGHT!


digg this
posted by Ace of Spades at 07:45 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
Sponge - F*ck Cancer: "[i] The Constitutional Court in the European Unio ..."

Orson: "314 The Constitutional Court in the European Union ..."

Pedocrat: "30 A child is obviously lost and crying. If you're ..."

BurtTC: "Instead, we should have socialized medicine for al ..."

ShainS -- I heard that James Carville is a Scientologist as well as Pederast [/b][/i][/s][/u] : "Penny should have called Top Dog LAWWW! https:/ ..."

Sponge - F*ck Cancer: "[i] I hope so but Twitchy is not exactly reliable ..."

Oldcat: "Democracy Dies via Tik-Tok The Constitutional C ..."

Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon: "Man that was going to be my angle on that. Vocal ..."

Sponge - F*ck Cancer: "Driving home this afternoon, there's some construc ..."

Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere [/i] [/b] : "[i]Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere * You ..."

N: "Autocucumber at its finest. Posted by: Re ..."

pakisa: "Kid in corner has shaved head - cooties. ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64