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Saturday Politics Thread: "Young Guns" [Y-not]Over the past few weeks we've been looking over some of the GOP prospects for 2016, focusing on governors. Last week we reviewed Kasich, Haley, and Martinez and there seemed to be a certain amount of enthusiasm for Governor Haley. Before that, we reviewed Walker, Jindal, and Perry and found that both Perry and Walker had strong support. Interestingly, when I polled the horde on all six of these governors, Nikki Haley dropped behind Bobby Jindal. I'm not sure if this is a reflection of people feeling they don't know Haley very well or if the dreaded "electability factor" reared its ugly head. It seems as though there's a reluctance to nominate a woman because of fears of what the media will do to her based on past experience with Palin. I thought this week week we'd dip our toes into somewhat murkier waters and review three high-profile senators whose names have been bandied about as prospective candidates for 2016: Marco Rubio (FL), Rand Paul (KY), and Ted Cruz (TX). I think the waters here are murkier for several reasons. One, as U.S. Senators each one of these men is paid to pontificate. Let's face it, without control of the Senate, there's not a heck of a lot a Republican Senator can accomplish except to make speeches, appear on television, and make social media posts. Second, there seems to be a strong feeling amongst a lot of likely Republican voters (who post on blogs, at least) that we should nominate a governor or possibly a businessman, but most certainly NOT a Senator or even a Representative. I should add that although I understand the arguments, I think they are being given far too much weight and, in some cases at least, I think they are being used to exclude candidates from consideration who are deemed ideologically unacceptable to people who influence elections. So when we discuss these three men, let's try to compare them to each other rather than spend a lot of time hashing out the "don't nominate a Senator" thing. I'd really like to hear more about what you think of their backgrounds, accomplishments, and ideologies today, if at all possible. Third, all three of them (even Rand Paul who was born in 1963) are sometimes considered to be "young guns." They have not been on the national stage (or even in office, in the case of Paul) for very long, so there is going to be a tendency by all of us (self included) to project our biases and wishes onto their records. When that happens things tend to get heated. I should add that one advantage of examining Senators' records is that they are all voting on the same measures that impact the nation. And, although they should be voting in a way consistent with their state constituents' views, they are less likely to be voting purely based on their state's interests. So it should be a more apples to apples comparison than trying to compare the records of governors to one another. The previous two of these 2016 threads have been very productive, I think, and remarkably cordial. Let's see if we can keep up the trend! First, a brief poll to get a sense of where the horde stands on these three: Without further ado, here are brief biosketches of the Young Guns. I'm going to use Ballotpedia again this week because I found their summaries more concise than Wiki's. (Ellipses indicate edits for length.) Marco Antonio Rubio (b. May 28, 1971, in Miami, FL) is a Republican member of the U.S. Senate from the state of Florida. Rubio was first elected to the Senate in 2010... Also from the Ballotpedia entry for Rubio, there's this summary of his stand on the issues. (Note: This is their take on it. I'm not sure I'd agree, but it'll be a starting point for discussion.)
Randal Howard "Rand" Paul (b. January 7, 1963, in Pittsburgh, PA) is a Republican member of the U.S. Senate from the state of Kentucky. Paul was first elected to the Senate in 2010... Also from Ballotpedia:
Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz (b. December 22, 1970, in Calgary, Alberta) is the Republican junior U.S. Senator from Texas.He was first elected in 2012. He defeated David Dewhurst in the primary runoff on July 31, 2012... Also from Ballotpedia:
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