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For @PRyan: Why The Senate's Immigration Bill Is AmnestyAs Ben noted in the news dump, Paul Ryan wants to debate anyone who calls the immigration bills moving through Congress "amnesty". Well, with all due respect, Congressman Ryan, game on! On Wednesday, Wisconsin Republican Rep. Paul Ryan, who has supported forms of immigration reform since he was a House staffer in the 1990s, declared that he would "debate anybody" who calls the current bipartisan effort "amnesty." Ooooh. So we're going to pass a law. A law! And that law says all these things need to happen before the current crop of illegal immigrants, who we should admit will cease being subject to deportation the second this piece of crap passes, can step foot on the path to citizenship. Well, Congressman Ryan, we have immigration laws on the books right this very second that say these folks should've already been kicked out of the country. These laws are not being enforced and haven't really been since the last amnesty in 1986. President Reagan set out to correct the loss of control at our borders. Border security and enforcement of immigration laws would be greatly strengthened—in particular, through sanctions against employers who hired illegal immigrants. If jobs were the attraction for illegal immigrants, then cutting off that option was crucial. Gee, those provisions from 1986 and 2006 do sound awfully familiar, don't they? Anyone who believes enforcement efforts will increase once an amnesty is passed must ignore all previous evidence to the contrary. In reality, what will happen is that the second this bill passes, the people who have been talking about how deplorable it is for people to have to "live in the shadows" will make a slight shift in the argument to talking about how deplorable it is that the newly-amnestied illegals are being forced to live as second-class citizens while they wait in line. I would be shocked if anyone failing to meet any of the criteria Ryan laid out is ultimately denied an open door to full citizenship. Additionally, there's a border security trigger in the Senate bill that Ryan failed to mention. Probably because it doesn't matter; the borders will either be declared secure or the second-class citizen argument will just wrap that in. Put simply, any bill that doesn't accomplish enforcement first - border security, employer sanctions, enforcement of overstayed visas, etc. - is, in fact, an amnesty bill and will simply repeat the mistakes of the 1986 amnesty on a larger scale. So, yes, it's amnesty. Reagan wasn't afraid to call it what it was. And once upon a time, Marco Rubio wasn't either:
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