Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!



Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups






















« THE MORNING RANT: Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s Latest Religious Conversion & the Act of Choosing to Become a Christian | Main | You Won't Have Sheila Jackson Lee to Kick Around Any Longer (Except Just a Little Bit Longer) »
December 11, 2023

Liz Magill and the Chairman of Penn's Board of Trustees Resigns

As you probably know, UPenn president Liz Magill resigned, as predicted, on Saturday.

She keeps her job as a professor of Bullshit.

Adam Carolla pointed out something about Magill's answers to the question of whether calling for genocide against Jews was against UPenn's rule -- she repeatedly said that if it crossed the line "into action," it was against the rules.

Well of course if you actually commit murder it's against the rules, Carolla exploded. That's obvious, but that's not what's being asked.

Is that the only thing that's against the rules?

That has certainly not been the only speech violation that's against UPenn's rules. Remember, UPenn told Will "Lia" Thomas' female swim team victims to keep silent about their discomfort about changing with Thomas or else face serious consequences.


Heather Mac Donald argues that conservatives chose the most expeditious path to getting vengeance on the woke left, but not the right one. And that the woke left will weaponize our mistake against us:

Critics of the American university have seized on what they perceive as the most efficacious means for discrediting academia. But though accusations of tolerance for the genocide of Jews guarantees the most media coverage, conservatives are making a mistake in highlighting that alleged tolerance as the main reason to revamp the university. This mistake will come back to haunt them.

Absent a complete turnover of university personnel, a renewed authority to limit speech will be used overwhelmingly against conservatives. Even now, Penn is weighing sanctions against law professor Amy Wax for her challenges to campus orthodoxy. Had the public consensus been that the universities' mistake was in not extending the same tolerance they showed to the pro-Hamas demonstrators to dissenters from leftist nostrums, Wax could have argued that she is entitled to the same protections for controversial speech. Now, with renewed support, even from the right, for student "safety," Penn can argue that its newfound concern for Jewish student safety requires it to intensify its solicitude for the "marginalized" groups whom Wax allegedly jeopardized with her contrarian opinions.

A colleague of Wax's has published an op-ed in the Washington Post unironically headlined: "To fight antisemitism on campuses, we must restrict speech." "Isn't it time for university presidents to rethink the role that open expression and academic freedom play in the educational mission of their institutions?" asks law professor Claire Finkelstein. However fanciful the question's premise--the universities currently honor academic freedom--it is chilling that the answer is increasingly affirmative, even from many on the right.

I think many on the right try to make the argument, which is difficult to make, that they have created this system, which we abhor and would like to see repudiated, but so long as they have this system of Safetyism in place, then Safetyism must be applied equally to everybody.

It's all a bit convoluted, I know. But everything fucking woke is convoluted.

What is the alternative, though? That I'm to support the wokies when they allow calls for genocide against Jews -- or whites or straights or men, for that matter -- and must suffer their censorship and debanking if I say anything that merely hurts the feeling of one of their protected groups?

I think Heather Mac Donald has a point -- but I think she's out to lunch to suggest that there is some strategically perfect play here.

I'm supposed to support these women who have championed the suppression of free speech on campus for their entire terms, because in this one case, supporting calls for intifada on campus, they made arguably the right, principled free speech absolutist call?

Mac Donald is making the point that by demanding Magill's ouster, we're also inadvertently supporting the idea that universities should punish unpopular speech. The trouble is, by supporting Magill, we'd also be supporting the idea that universities should punish unpopular speech, because Magill's entire term has been all about that.

So what are we to do? I just don't see a clean path to full victory here. Is there some way we can actually pressure Harvard, UPenn, and MIT to renounce their entire manner of punishing free speech going forward?

No, there's not.

So to be honest I think just sticking a knife in where you can is the only option open to us.

Well put:

It is possible to argue two things at once:

1) we should have true free speech on college campuses; and

2) as long as you are going to have and enforce "speech codes" we want them enforced equally to leftists as they are to righties.

McDonald thinks that if you argue "1", you cannot argue "2". That's stupid.It's called arguing in the alternative. Yes, I would prefer "1" in a perfect world, and I will try to fight for 1, but in the meantime i'm going to demand that "2" be applied.

I'm against a lot of the idiocy in the tax code, but I'm going to take advantage of the stuff as long as it's on the books. I'm not paying more in taxes out of "principle". The left never does, why should I?

Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months


You'll never believe this -- SNL was 1, unfunny in covering this story and 2, found a way to make the people objecting to the embrace of intifada on campuses the bad guys.

digg this
posted by Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:25 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
Grumpy and Recalcitrant[/i][/b]: ". NOOD Tech NOOD ..."

Ciampino - Talking of glasses: "AAAAAA - American Association Against Acronym Abus ..."

Grumpy and Recalcitrant[/i][/b]: "Mornin' Horde. Well it's been a lousy 36 hours. ..."

cuckquean sex stories: "On April 11, 1991, the House of Representatives ha ..."

Toad-0: "Came in late (as usual), reading the older comment ..."

297373.xyz: "But years later, the two males joined together aga ..."

Toad-0: "Replacement lenses fixed my astigmatism, too. Most ..."

https://Www.Freeliveadultchat.com/shtml/132.html: "Moreover, it is excellent for a newbie model to ge ..."

Ciampino - Talking of glasses: "My cataracts are really bad plus they won't give m ..."

JQ: "Well, dang it, I gotta hit the hay. Thanks for ..."

JQ: "Hmmm. I have astigmatism in both eyes. Maybe shoul ..."

Toad-0: "LASIK changes the shape of your eyeball. They say ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64