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Ukraine Has Widened Its Investigation Into Fugitive, Wherabouts-Unknown Founder of Burisma"No evidence" of anything worth investigating, the media keeps telling me. - Ukraine has widened its investigation into the founder of energy company Burisma to include suspicion of embezzling state funds, Prosecutor General Ruslan Ryaboshapka said on Wednesday. "No evidence" of corruption at Burisma. No substantiation for any allegation and hence no reason to be suspicious or to want investigations. None at all. Apparently he's a fugitive.
Nothing to see here. No reason to investigate. "No evidence" of any corruption. The media is fond of claiming that there's no evidence that Ukraine interfered with US elections. But this report from December 12, 2018, notes that a Ukranian court ruled that Ukranian officials had interfered in the US elections of 2016... against Trump.
What right-wing, fringe fake-news Trumpist conspiracy site is that from? Well, it's from the best right-wing, fringe fake-news Trumpist conspiracy site: The New York Times. And of course most are familiar with this fake-news conspiracy theory from the right-wing Trumpalo site Politico: Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire More accurate phrasing would be, "engineering Manafort's resignation." ...and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine's foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia's alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails. That's some CYA liberal spin. They're trying to minimize Ukraine's meddling to support the narrative that OMG TRUMP RUSSIA COLLUSION. But Ukraine directly "meddled," working with Hillary Clinton's campaign. Yet even after minimizing Ukrainian meddling, Politiico has to report they did, in fact, interfere with our elections, in ways that sovereign nations usually do not find acceptable: ... But only Russia's. Because the media and the DNC are one and the same. When Ukraine meddles on behalf of Hillary Clinton, working with DNC official Alexandria Chalupa, the media and "American body politic" says "no big deal." It's not that Russian meddling is different than Ukranian meddling. It's that who was claimed to have benefit is different. The media are outraged that anyone tried to help Trump; but they're very understanding about a foreign country subverting our precious elections for Hillary.
So let's sum up: A Ukranian-American operative got dirt from Ukranian officials about Paul Manafort, who they were at political war with for having done a deal with a politician who was pro-Russian. This Ukranian-American operative cooks up the "RUSSIAN COLLUSION" narrative, and spreads it to the DNC and to Hillary Clinton. As always, I have to mention this operative partnered up with another leftwing conspiracy theorist. NeverTrumpers never mention him, of course, but then, they also never mentioned him in the past, either. Now, this RUSSIAN COLLUSION conspiracy theory is taken so seriously by the liberal cadre that dominates the federal government as thoroughly as the leftwing dominates college administrations that they actually spy on two officials tangentially related to a presidential campaign precisely so they can use the two-hop rule to spy on Trump's communications. The threat of foreign interference, they thought, was so serious that it justified spying on an actual presidential candidate during an election. The threat of foreign interference was so serious, they further thought, that it justified the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC paying a foreign spy (Steele) and giving him money with which he would pay Russian intelligence assets and informers for dirt. So yeah: Hillary and the DNC paid, indirectly but inarguably, Russians for information. And meanwhile, Obama used official government means against Trump. All necessary, we're told, because the threat of RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE was just that serious. So now Trump sees multiple news reports about direct Ukranian interference, interference itself admitted to by Ukraine, and he asks Ukraine to get to the bottom of it. And, I'm sure, he wants to send the signal: Further interference by a foreign country in our elections will not be tolerated and may result in some official penalties. You know -- like the official penalties Obama and then Trump imposed on Russia for interfering. And now the same people who told us that the threat of foreign interference was so intolerable that it justified Obama lying to FISA courts to spy on a presidential candidate and Hillary Clinton bankrolling actual Russian covert operatives for dirt... say that asking Ukraine investigate its own interference is... illegal and impeachable?! More "No Evidence" From JackStraw: Why nobody mentions that Nellie Ohr testified under oath to Congress that Fusion GPS was getting dirt directly from Ukraine is a mystery to me. | Recent Comments
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