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Gun Thread: Carbine Madness! [Weasel]![]() W. Churchill firing his favorite carbine For Pete's sake! Even Churchill himself didn't fancy the Jungle Carbine! Just look at what he's shooting! Last week we saw what the Brits had to offer in a carbine rifle, so let's return to America and see what our guys were using, shall we? After having a look at the Enfield "Jungle Carbine" last week I thought it only made sense to see what Americans fielded during WWII; the M1 Carbine. Where the No.5 Mk.1 was considered by most to be unpleasant to shoot, it was nearly universally praised for it's compact size and light weight. Even lighter and smaller, the M1 Carbine is an absolute pleasure to shoot with the most notable difference being the cartridge, as we'll see a little later. The following example was made by General Motors, Inland Division, in 1944. ![]() ![]()
![]() Bolt view - note rear sight adjustable for windage Ammunition This makes the the rifle considerably less powerful than the M1 Garand, but with greater penetration than the .45 cal Thompson submachine gun. There were reports of marginal effectiveness at the extreme limits of it's range, but inside about 50 yards where most engagements occurred, it was highly effective. ![]() .30 Carbine (l) and .303 British (r) So now we see the difference in the cartridges. A G.I. could carry considerably more ammunition for the M1 Carbine than they could for the Jungle Carbine, but with a significant corresponding reduction in firepower. The .30 carbine delivers around 970 ft lbs of energy versus about 2,550 ft lbs for the .303 British.
![]() Enfield No.5 Mk 1 (top) and M1 Carbine (bottom) Side-by-Side Comparison Manufacturers - Inland Division, General Motors Does anyone else find the wartime production conversion from automobiles, typewriters, postal meters and juke boxes to rifles interesting? I once had someone suggest a couple of books on the subject, but cannot recall the titles now. Anyone have any recommendations? Link-O-Rama Article: M1 Carbine Book: M1 Carbine Wartime Production Book: M1 Carbine Owners Guide War Department Field Manual - U.S. Carbine, Caliber .30, M1 Book: M1 Carbine Assembly/Disassembly/Maintenance Manual
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