Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!



Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups


NoVaMoMe 2024: 06/08/2024
Arlington, VA
Registration Is Open!


Texas MoMe 2024: 10/18/2024-10/19/2024 Corsicana,TX
Contact Ben Had for info





















« Food Thread: Egg Pie, And Other Things To Do With Leftover Pie Crust | Main | Sunday Overnight Open Thread (12/30/18) »
December 30, 2018

Gun Thread: I Can't Hear You!! [Weasel]

sgt carter scaled.jpg
Shoulda' worn ear protection, Sarge!!

One thing we haven't talked about much is hearing protection while shooting. Actually, I'm not sure we've ever actually talked about hearing protection while shooting. So Gun Thread Staff did some research and ho-lee-krap is there ever a lot of scientific shit written on sound and noise and loudness and shooting. I mean there is a very serious amount of stuff on sound and how it works with most of it involving funny little squiggles and symbols in math equations. So I took one for the team and jumped right in to distill the topic to a few key points.


Summary of Key Points:
a) Guns are very loud and shooting them without ear protection can quickly mess up your hearing.
2) Use hearing protection and you won't mess up your hearing too badly.

Sound Pressure and Loudness
There are a number of ways to measure energy, and one such measure for sound is the decibel (dB), which is equal to 1/10th of one bel. The decibel can express the ratio of one value to another, or a change in values, on a logarithmic scale, and can also be referenced as an absolute value. Electrical signals can be measured in decibels, but that's a topic best left for bluebell's electrical engineering course. Anyhow, it's complicated, but I think I have this right; a 3 dB increase is a doubling in sound energy or intensity, while each 10 dB gain is a doubling of perceived loudness. This concludes my effort to understand these matters, but suffice it to say you really need to protect your hearing. Sound at 140 dB can instantly cause permanent damage to your hearing, and a .357 Magnum weighs in at nearly 170 dB. Indoor use can magnify the effect, while outdoor use allows the sound to dissipate with distance.

Cause-Effect-Perception scaled.gif
Loudness Perception, Sound Pressure and Intensity by Decibel Gain

Here's a nifty list of the decibel value of various gunshots by weapon and caliber. Remember, a gain of 10 decibels is a doubling in loudness.


The Basics
There are generally two types of hearing protection for shooters; the over-the-ear style, used for high frequency noise, and the plug type for low frequency noise. I'm not certain my ears are sophisticated enough to know the difference between high and low frequencies, however, most shooters have both types.


ear pro 2 scaled.jpg

I prefer the over-the-ear, or ear muff type when I am shooting indoors, and usually the plug type when I'm shooting outdoors. Some shooters use both types at the same time for added protection (NOTE: Plugs go in first). Personally, I'm not a fan of the ear muff style when shooting rifles, as my cheek weld on the stock has a tendency to cause the pad to lift up, making them ineffective for that ear. They also make my ears hot, and who likes hot ears? At one time, for some reason, I invested in much more expensive custom fit plugs, but didn't care for them because I couldn't hear anything while I had them in. Absolutely no sound came through, including range commands, which is a bad thing if someone is screaming "cease fire!" I also cannot find them now to include in the picture which is more than slightly irritating. Anyhow, I have found the inexpensive and disposable plugs on a string work just fine (for me) outdoors to keep the sound of a gunshot manageable, while allowing other normal sounds to pass through well enough to understand. Some offerings in both styles contain electronics to 'cancel' the sound of a gunshot, and some can be pricey. I have a pair of earmuffs that incorporate this feature, but I'm not sure I can tell when they're turned on or off, so I'm probably not realizing their full design potential. Maybe time to check the batteries?

Decisions, Decisions...
Faced with a tremendous variety of sizes, shapes and styles, how do you make a selection? Well comfort and functionality as described above certainly play a big part, but hearing protection also comes with a rating for the degree of protection offered. This is the Noise Reduction Rating, or NRR, and the greater the number, the greater the protection. To receive an NRR, the product must be tested and approved by ANSI as prescribed by OSHA standards, with ratings varying from the low 20s to the mid 30s in terms of relative noise reduction in decibels. I say 'relative' because there is a formula used to express the NRR in terms of decibel reduction. Suffice it to say, the higher the number, the better.

Here is a supplier's webpage that explains the various factors, and allows you to sort hearing protection by style, manufacturer, and NRR. You will note there are models with the highest ratings that are very affordable, so a high degree of protection doesn't need to cost a fortune.

Have you damaged your hearing by shooting without ear protection?
Have you damaged your hearing even while wearing ear protection?
Which style of ear protection do you use and why?
Any significant preference for a particular brand?
What has your experience been with the elecronic type of ear protection?

*******

I would like to take this opportunity to thank CBD and Ace for allowing me to write this thread each week, and more importantly to thank all of you for stopping by, contributing, and keeping it interesting. Wishing you all a Happy New Year and a Very Happy and Prosperous 2019!

*******

Link-O-Rama
Hearing Protection for Shooters: A Much Better Article than I've Written Above
What is a decibel?
Hearing Loss in Shooters
Firearm Noise Exposure
Asymmetric Hearing Loss
More Noise Education

Not All Learning is Good learning - More than you want to know. More than you need to know.
Sengpielaudio Technical Website
Fiziks - MATH WARNING!
Article: Measuring Sound
Article: The Decibel Scale
Sound and the Decibel Scale

*******

***This Old Gun/Mail Bag***

This week's Old Gun comes to us from boating enthusiast and mostly lurker JR, who sends us this photo of a pristine Browning Hi-Power.

browning hi power scaled.jpg
Browning Hi-Power

Captain JR tells us:

Attached is a pic of my recently lost-at-Sea Browning Hi-Power. It was a Belgian made, early Mk I, T-series serial number, with a replacement front sight. My eyes give me the choice of seeing target or sights, not both so it is probably capable of better accuracy than I can achieve. But, it's a battle weapon, not a target gun. It ate everything I fed it, with very few FTFs or FTEs. My adult daughters both shot it well and they are tiny ladies. My son called dibs when I ride on ahead, too bad it was lost at sea!

Thank you for sending this in Cap'n'! It was a beauty!!

*******

***This Old Cookbook***

TDG front cover.jpg

OK you clowns - buy a copy of the cookbook. If you already have one for your own bad self, then give one as a gift this season. Remember; it's only pennies per day, all proceeds go to charity, and if you don't buy a copy then bluebell will be sad.

And you wouldn't like bluebell when she's sad.

Yes! I want to be a WeaselWarrior and prevent sadness in bluebell!!

*************

IMPORTANT!

Finally Don't forget to mark your calendars for the NoVaMoMe on February 9, 2019. If you are interested, please email the organizers! There is also a link in the main page left sidebar.

*************

Please note the new and improved gmail account MoronGunThread for sending in stories and pictures. Again, that's morongunthread at gmail dot com. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

digg this
posted by Open Blogger at 07:31 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
[/i][/b]Clyde Shelton: "[i]“We’ve now established a precedent ..."

Lizzy[/i]: "Not to belabor this, but it boggles the mind that ..."

PG: ""Johnson’s completely arbitrary trip to New ..."

Bulgaroctonus: ""Bureaugamy" is the term I've seen to describe thi ..."

RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u]: "[i]"Bureaugamy" is the term I've seen to describe ..."

Bulgaroctonus: "They aren't unmarried really - they are married to ..."

18-1: "[i]New Hotness: Those Israeli b#tches made it all ..."

Thomas Bender: "@290 >>The Trump presidential immunity argument ..."

Harvey Weinstein: "[i] Susan Sarandon couldn't hold a candle to Gwyne ..."

Lizzy[/i]: "Old and Busted: BELIEVE ALL WOMEN #MEETOO New H ..."

[/b][/s][/u][/i]Muldoon: "Susan Sarandon couldn't hold a candle to Gwyneth ..."

Whoopi Goldberg: "[i]That's a "myth?"?!?!?[/i] Its not rape rape. ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64