Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com


Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups






















« Obama Graciously Compliments Republicans: "I don't think they're all terrible people. I think they love their families." | Main | Obama Speaking Now To Reassure People He Plans to Take the Immigration Surge Seriously and Then Play Some Pool »
July 09, 2014

Lois Lerner Email: We Should Be Careful What We Say In Emails
And, Say, Just Curious: The IRS' Internal Instant-Message System Isn't Archived By Any Chance, Is It?

So first she says that we should be careful what we say in emails, and then asks if the OCS system -- an internal IRS instant-message system -- is also archived, as emails are.

She is told "no."

She responds: "Perfect."

This is big.

The latest emails suggest that IRS officials had a separate instant-messaging system that also wasn't preserved.

The new emails also raised new questions for some lawmakers about Ms. Lerner, the now-retired head of the IRS exempt organizations division who has become a focus of the inquiry. The emails show her urging colleagues to be cautious about what they say in their emails, because Congress had previously tried to obtain them.

"I was cautioning folks about email and how we have had several occasions where Congress has asked for emails and there has been an electronic search for responsive emails--so we need to be cautious about what we say in emails," Ms. Lerner wrote. "Someone asked if [instant messaging] conversations were also searchable--I don't know, but told them I would get back to them. Do you know?"

She is urging people to be cautious in emails while simultaneously asking if it's safe to say whatever she likes on OCS.

I know I keep saying that; but it should be stressed.

"[Instant] messages are not set to automatically save as the standard; however the functionality exists within the software," the technician wrote back. "My general recommendation is to treat the conversation as if it could/is being saved somewhere, as it is possible for either party of the conversation to retain the information and have it turn up as part of an electronic search."

"Perfect," Ms. Lerner replied.

I'm sure she meant "I'll just change the default setting to archive these instant messages right now, in order to carefully preserve a record of official documents."

The email conversation occurred in early April of 2013, just a few days after the agency's inspector general delivered a critical report on the alleged targeting to IRS officials. The inspector general's report--which concluded that the IRS targeted the conservative groups--was made public about a month later, touching off a political furor.


LoisLernerOCS.jpg

Viewable here, if that doesn't display.

There's more, too. Lerner is in trouble because the law requires her to print out emails, to be archived as official documents.

However, I get the sense she's not eager to share those print-outs, and would rather the "failed harddrive" story be the end of the matter.

So Lerner -- and it seems Koskinen -- are playing a game here as to whether she actually did print them out.

If she didn't print them out, she violated the law, and Holder has even less of an excuse not to prosecute.

If she did print them out, then she didn't violate the law -- but in that case, why hasn't the IRS or Lerner produced these print outs?

So the story here as to whether the emails were printed out keeps changing, or at least it's never clear.

All via Twitchy, which also has a video of Koskinen being grilled by Representative Jim Jordan.

This John Koskinen sounds, frankly, like a mob lawyer -- he just doesn't know anything about anyone.


Oh, and:



digg this
posted by Ace at 06:10 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
[/i][/b]andycanuck (hovnC)[/s][/u]: "Maral Salmassi @MaralSalmassi Despite claims made ..."

jimmymcnulty: "Are Australian pizzas served upside down. Asking ..."

Viggo Tarasov: "Hey, that tweezer thing can really pluck someone u ..."

Eromero: "322 German police valiantly confiscating a Swiss A ..."

Anna Puma: "BOLO Rowdy the kangaroo has jumped his fence an ..."

fd: "You can't leave Islam. They won't let you. ..."

[/b][/s][/u][/i]muldoon, astronomically challenged: "German police valiantly confiscating a Swiss Army ..."

Cicero (@cicero43): "Hamas clearly recognises that when the cultural es ..."

Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd: "The only way you can defend this position is to ei ..."

Ciampino - See you don't solve it by banning guns: "303 BMW pretty low to ground ... at least it wasn ..."

NaCly Dog: "I had a UPS package assigned to a woman in another ..."

Dr. Not The 9 0'Clock News: "One high school history teacher I remember well, a ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64