Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!



Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups


NoVaMoMe 2024: 06/08/2024
Arlington, VA
Registration Is Open!


Texas MoMe 2024: 10/18/2024-10/19/2024 Corsicana,TX
Contact Ben Had for info





















« Two Guys Dancing Behind People At A Mall | Main | Global Markets Tank; Dow Loses 300 Points In Worse Week Since 2011 »
January 24, 2014

No, The Little Sisters Order Is Not "Really a Defeat" For Them

Just a quick mention here that several lefty blogs are sharing this post from UC-Irvine law professor Rick Hasen suggesting that "what looks like a victory against having to do a symbolic act may really be a defeat in having to do the nearly identical symbolic act."

First, here's the order:

Hasen writes:

So they win by not having to fill out the form. But they have now to send a letter containing essentially the same disavowal in order to not be covered. Presumably this triggers the very same thing: the insurance companies providing the contraceptive coverage directly.

Everything Hasen writes in the sentence beginning "Presumably" is incorrect, which is what happens when someone who apparently hasn't been following an issue starts a sentence with the word "presumably."

First, the coverage the Little Sisters object to is not triggered by giving HHS notification, as contemplated by the Supreme Court order. Rather, it is triggered "[i]f a third party administrator receives a copy of the self-certification," i.e., the accommodation form that organizations objecting to the contraception mandate have to fill out. You can check me on this, if you like (PDF). The Supreme Court order specifically says that the Little Sisters notification to HHS does not have to use the accommodation form or provide it to their third-party administrator. Thus, providing an alternative notification to HHS does not trigger the objectionable contraceptive coverage.

Also, contrary to Hasen, the insurance companies aren't even in this. The Little Sisters use a self-insured health plan, which has a third-party administrator, again as specifically stated in the Supreme Court order, not an insured group health plan. The different types of plans have different requirements.


digg this
posted by Gabriel Malor at 06:24 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
Braenyard: "7 Afternoon. Posted by: Robert ---------------- ..."

polynikes: "Paxton needs to indict Hillary for her 2016 electi ..."

Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame [/s] [/b] [/i]: "Apparently, Beau was gunned down by Babyface Nelso ..."

Oldcat: "OK something is broken. I read most of the post an ..."

Robert: "OT... https://tinyurl.com/y8exckhr (Twatter) ..."

Robert: "Afternoon. ..."

Decaf: "This is by no means a guarantee for Trump. Amy Con ..."

nurse ratched : "Let loose the flamethrowing robodogs! ..."

NaCly Dog: "Robert She was built. ..."

Huck Follywood: "My wife doesn't get salmon semen injections. She ..."

Duke Lowell: "It's in the orangemanbad clause, duh ..."

NaCly Dog: "Oldcat Yes. The old ways are best. Have the ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64