Roseanne Calls Gays Self-Absorbed Narcissists Who Don't Give A Shit About Any Issue Not Involving Their Sexuality

Coupla points. First of all, of course women talk more about "women's issues," blacks talk about civil rights, and gays talk more about gay issues than do others not part of those groups. This is normal. It can lead to a ghettoization of thought, whereby minorities/women talk about such issues to the exclusion of all else, but doesn't need to.

And secondly, it's not really true. Gays talk about all sorts of issues. Some, like Andrew Sullivan, seem to always be talking about gay issues even when he's discussing an apparently unrelated issue, but that's not typical. Gay righties talk a lot about the war and taxes, as do gay lefties.

Which leads me to the third point: In our very PC culture, is this now considered hate speech? Certainly this is a far more considered and seriously-intended statement than Imus' "nappy-haired ho's" crack.

Never once in my 54 years have I ever once heard a gay or lesbian person who's politically active say one thing about anything that was not about them. They don't care about minimum wage, they don't care about any other group other than their own self because you know, some people say being gay and lesbian is a totally narcissistic thing and sometimes I wonder. I've never heard any of them say anything except for 'Accept me 'cause I'm gay.' It's just, it's screwed. It's no different than the evangelicals, it's the same mindset. They want you to accept Jesus and you guys want us to all believe it's ok to be gay. And a lot of us, a lot of them, I do, I don't give a damn who anybody has sex with, as long as they're not underage and an animal. I don't give a damn, it's none of my damn business. I'm just sick of all the divisiveness, it's not getting any of us anywhere.

I guess there's something of a point here. But there are ways to make a point without resorting to group libel.

Oh, and: This clearly isn't a joke. There's nothing at all here funny. She means it. She's a dedicated lefty but she's annoyed at the gay left making their (largely self-interested and largely unpopular) issues the core of the left's program, thus scaring off support for positions she thinks matter more (like the minimum wage).

And there's something to that, I guess. But to claim she's never known a gay who's had any political opinions on any matter except gay stuff? Please. This is gross overstatement kissing right up against "hate" (at least "hate" as the CW currently defines it).

Besides, it's not gay lefties who have pushed the left further and further from the old New Deal-ish focus on soft socialism and unionism and all that. It's pretty much lefties in general, including the feminists and their pussified male fellow travellers, who have dumbed down the left to make it so focused on sexual matters. The entire movement focuses on sex because it's so easy to have an opinion about sex. You don't need to be a policy wonk or do any homework at all to have a strong (gut) opinion about sexual attitudes.

Sex is natural, sex is fun, as George Michael sang, as a political topic because you don't need to know a goddamn thing at all to sound off about it.

Thanks to PetiteDov, who reads Perez Hilton so that you don't have to.

posted by Ace at 04:51 PM

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