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September 01, 2006

The AoS Friday Night Virtual Gas N' Sip

I'm in on a Friday, and not too worried about it. I'm blogging outside and listening to crickets.

I'm kind of in the boonies, and the crickets are a nice change of pace. At least, that is, until I begin to go bananas from the isolation.

Checking out my gmail box, I see some other bloggers are at home or at least were at home until recently.

Blogging is all sorts of glamorous.

The world map.

I have no idea what the point of this post is. I guess it's just a wordy open thread.


Hello, Glenn: Or is it Ellison? Or Wilson?

In any event, I expect you to give your readers a full report on the scary-important doings at Ace of Spades first thing in the AM.

Isn't it funny that within minutes of mentioning Glenn Greenwald a Rio de Janeiro IP shows up?

But yeah, that's the Magic Cabana Boy. He's just obsessed with googling "Glenn Greenwald" twenty four hours a day.

Update to the sock-puppetry post...

Does "sprezzatura's" defending of Lee Siegel seem similar to "Ellison's" passionate defense of Glenn Greenwald? You be the judge:

You have quite an obsession with Siegel! Sounds to me like you're an envious young writer. I mean, first you have a wife and two kids, and now you're a poor young lawyer with time to write extended tirades against Siegel. ... Every young writer in NYC has it in for poor Siegel it seems. They all write like middle-aged hacks. He has the fire and guts of a young man (I assume he's middle-aged himself, or somewhere near there.) Who am I? Someone who knows who you are.

...

I guess if you can't get into TNR's pages, writing envious, obsessive screeds in response to a TNR blog is the next best thing.

...

You're a fraud, and a liar. And a wincingly pretentious writer. You couldn't tie Siegel's shoelaces.

Siegel also played Greenwald's game of explicitly claiming not to be Siegel. Remember how one of Greenwald's puppets had to "email Glenn" in order to get a response/reply to a question?

Thanks to Allah Pundit at Hot Air.

Remember when everyone was defending Greenwald by stating he'd never resort to sock-puppetry, he'd just defend himself under his own name?

Well, Lee Siegel seems to prove that when you're basically engaging in puffery, many prefer to do it under a sock-puppet alias.


More...


"jhschwartz" seems to have nailed him. After arguing with "sprezzatura" (those quotes above were in reply to "jhschwartz"):

Googling "sprezzatura" and TNR yields really interesting results. sprezzatura appears only to weigh in on TNR forums to admonish and taunt posters who dislike Lee Siegel and to praise in lavish terms the piece under discussion, in all but one case, written by Lee Siegel.

A sampling from the Siegel threads:

"to jfabermit . . . You're obsessed. You need a life, some love, some medication."

"Siegel is my hero: [. . .] Siegel is brave, brilliant, and wittier than [Jon] Stewart will ever be. Take that, you bunch of immature, abusive sheep."

"Naa naa naa-naa naa!"

"The insults. The insecurity. 'Maybe our taste is bad! Maybe Stewart really isn't funny! Who do we turn to for authoritative guidance?' Pathetic, just pathetic. Did I really see someone call Siegel 'Seagull?' So playground. And Siegel said Stewart was so playground. Quod erat demonstrandum. You really need Jon Stewart to expose Bush and Cheney's lies? You can't figure that out from reading the newpaper? Remember 2004? Remember everyone saying that Stewart would incite drove of young people--and his fans of all ages--to the polls? I guess all that gritty truthtelling, unavailable from other sources, just didn't do the trick. You're all a bunch of sad, manipulable, morons, with the self-esteem of ninth-graders. I might cancel my subscription to the New Republic not because of the magazine, but because of the cases of stunted emotional and intellectual growth who read it."

"sprezzatura" even refers to another poster, as Siegel does to me in this post, as -- wait for it -- "my dear"! Here (post # 51 of 179): http://www.tnr.com/doc_posts.mhtml?i=w060227&s=sie gel022706

I would say with 99% confidence that "sprezzatura" is a Siegel alias.

Same tip-offs as with Greenwald. Same thing happened here with Ellison-- someone posting as "Glenn Greenwald's Keyboard" immediately claimed Ellison was Greenwald (and was, of course, quite right).

Look, only one person in the world is as committed to defending you as you are, and that's you.

"sprezzatura's" responses to jhschwartz's accusations:

You really are obsessed. You need medication, too.

...

I'm not Lee Siegel, you imbecile. If you knew who I was you and your [magazine] buddies would crap in your pants... Good luck managing your frustrated ambition.

Hah.

It's eerie how similar Greenwald and Siegel are.

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