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Judith Miller and the Year Old WaiverRecently, someone on (formerly) jailed NyTimes reporter Judith Millerâs team started the ball rolling toward her release by contacting the prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald. The story they told him: the only reason their client was still sitting in jail, refusing to testify, was because Joe Tate (lawyer for Cheneyâs Chief of Staff, Lewis Libby) told them a year ago Libbyâs waiver wasnât really voluntary. Fitzgerald apparently sent off a heated letter to Tate. I say "apparently," because though we donât have that letter, the NyTimes obtained Tateâs excited response. They also have Floyd Abrams' (Miller's lawyer) reply to Tate and released them both today. Comparing them, it seems obvious they can't both be telling the truth. The NyTimes Adam Liptak writes: The dueling letters give sharply divergent accounts of what was said a year ago when lawyers for Ms. Miller and her source, I. Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, discussed the possibility of Ms. Miller's testimony before a grand jury investigating the possibly unlawful disclosure of the identity of a C.I.A. officer. That summary doesnât do them justice. To get the real 'No, youâre lying. No you are' schoolyard sizzle, you have to read the actual letters (link in Liptak's article). Or just read this: Libby's response to the prosecutor: To say I am surprised [at your letter] is an understatement... I told Ms. Millerâs counsel over a year ago and he assured me there was nothing my client or I could do to change her position... (Emphasis original.) Abrams', Sept 29th response: ⊠In our conversations [âŠ] you did not say that Mr. Libbyâs written waiver was uncoerced. In fact, you said quite the opposite. You told me the signed waiver was by its nature coerced and had been required as a condition of Mr. Libbyâs continued employment at the White House... A failure by your client to sign the waiver, you explained, like any assertion of your client of the fifth amendment would result in his dismissal. You persuasively mocked the notion that any waiver signed under any such circumstances could be deemed voluntary. So whatâs going on here? My usual first impulse with stuff like this is to say itâs just a miscommunication that, for whatever reason, never got corrected. And I can sort of understand its not getting corrected: after the original talks, no one wanted to go back for more. With Miller saying sheâs not going to testify, frequent huddling begins to look a bit sinister, something an ornery prosecutor might label âobstruction of justice.â Better to just stay away. But the underlying stories are just so different. So you ask: what does Libby gain by keeping Miller from taking the stand when other journalist had already testified as to their conversation with him? Why give Miller the run around as to the sincerity of his waiver? Good question. I don't know, though maybe now the Grand Jury does. And what did Miller gain by stretching this out? Tom Maguire offered this 'run out the clock' theory not long ago. Another, related to Millerâs drawing the concession she only be asked about Libby, was put forward by Powerline yesterday. Those could be true but they strike me as complex. And frankly, a little dark. I'm a sunny guy. I guess I'm gonna try and devise some simple story of lawyerly mega-incompetence. Maybe try to add in super-attorney ego trouble too. I'll try. But man, they're sure making it hard not to call someone a liar. Update: Powerline, today, has the letters in nice clickable form. They also give them a good going over and seem pretty convinced Abrams' response is the weaker. Paul Mirengoff notes: (Abrams' claim that Tate "persuasively mocked" the notion that the waiver was voluntary is laughable -- since when does a lawyer base his legal conclusions on the mocking of another lawyer). The other reporters involved in this case were satisfied with Libby's waiver as Tate explained it to their lawyers. Abrams response to this is to huff that "Ms. Miller was not." But why not? Is it because she received inferior legal advice? Because she wanted to serve some time to enhance her reputation? Or because she had another source to protect? Good questions, but Iâd note Abramâs job a year ago wasnât particularly âlegalisticâ or really calling for âlegal conclusion.â He was only acting as a go between, carrying to Miller the signs he gathered from Libbyâs lawyers as to whether the White House staffer's waiver was really, truly voluntary. It seems whether or not Tate âmockedâ their voluntariness is exactly the info Abramsâ client wanted. Why? So she could make her own independent, ethical, journalistic conclusion based on those facts. And the concern that Miller wasnât satisfied while other journalists were, speaks to me as to the possibility Tate told Miller something different than he told other journalists (if they even asked) â and/or, more likely, as to Millerâs particular heightened ethics. Is there a reason we shouldnât expect Judith Miller to be little Miss set-a-noble-example? Someone usually is. And frankly, would it be that surprising to discover that a Times reporter romanticizes the journalist/martyr just a little extra, thinks of themselves as belonging to a special journalist-nobility caste of whom more is expected? Not saying that other, darker scenarioâs wonât be proven. (The whole not testify until the scope is restricted gives pause) but I havenât seen anything yet that really knocks my simple journalist/martyr mind off itâs one simple track. And I havenât seen anything yet that makes me think Abrams is lying and Tate isnât. (though one of them sure looks to be.) 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