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Rand Paul: Anthony Fauci Lied About Retiring. He's Still Working for the Government, For Protection Against an Indictment.Claiming to be retired also means he can legally fight congressional subpoenas. If he admits he's a government employee, he has to testify -- he has no choice. But a private citizen can fight a subpeona. Republican Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul has taken another swipe at his arch nemesis, Anthony Fauci, claiming that the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is not really retired and is still working for the government. The senator appeared on Fox News on Wednesday and spoke to host Sean Hannity about what he says he found. Video at the link. Rand Paul also says Fauci weaponized the government to destroy his critics, using taxpayer monies as a bribery slush-fund. "This guy weaponized the NIAD. He weaponized it to get his supporters," the senator said. "At first, they said, 'My goodness. It came from a lab.' And then, all of a sudden, they changed their mind. They got more money. They got more grants." Even the New York Times now admits that Anthony Fauci is a corrupt liar, in an opinion piece written by a New York Times op-ed contributor. Even the literally-Fauci-worshipping NYT is starting to doubt their midget god. She begins by recalling an interview of Anthony Fauci in 2021 by... Newt Gingrich. Gingrich praised Fauci for being such a wise and learned man. But then he asked about this conspiracy theory being spread by conservatives -- or "urban legend," as Gingrich called it -- that covid-19 had been created in the Wuhan Respiratory Virus Laboratory, specifically in their bat-virus-research lab.
Why? It f&cking shut the world down, did you not catch that? If you did have a working vaccine in advance, you could release such a weapon while your own population remained infection-free. They always have to signal their adherence to the True Progressive Faith, even when they're confessing that their Progressive Popes are corrupt liars. Instead they dissembled. Ah, "dissembled." The cowardly courtier's way of saying "My dear sweet glorious prince appears to have inadvertently lied, perhaps due to be overserved by a commoner." The near-certainty with which Dr. Fauci spoke publicly of zoonotic crossover is somewhat incongruous with his private communications from that time. He knew there was real debate -- he was in the thick of it. In public, he leaned hard into animal crossover; behind the scenes, he wrote that "I do not know how this evolved" but warned that he was concerned about "distortions on social media" of Covid's origins. Fauci here "forgets" that many diseases have escaped from research labs. Including the H1N1 swine flu putbreak of 1977. The danger of a manmade pandemic sparked by a laboratory escape is not hypothetical: One occurred in 1977, and it occurred because of concern that a natural pandemic was imminent. Many other laboratory escapes of high-consequence pathogens have occurred, resulting in transmission beyond laboratory personnel. Ironically, these laboratories were working with pathogens to prevent the very outbreaks they ultimately caused. For that reason, the tragic consequences have been called "self-fulfilling prophecies." Is that not scary enough? How about the repeated release of deadly smallpox from British labs? Smallpox releases in Great Britain. Eradication of natural smallpox transmission made the prospect of reintroduction of the virus intolerable. This risk was clearly demonstrated in the United Kingdom. From 1963-78 the U.K. saw only four cases of smallpox (with no deaths) occurred that were imported by travelers from areas where smallpox was endemic. During this same period at least 80 cases and three deaths resulted from three separate escapes from two different accredited smallpox laboratories. Fauci is claiming he didn't lie when he ruled out a lab outbreak. He will confess only to a Modified Limited Hang-Out: Maybe he had a congnitive bias in favor of natural zoonotic evolution, but that's only because he's such an experienced virus-fighter that he remembers all the cases of "natural spillover." But he has also been the head of the NIAID during the period when scientists confirmed that the swine flu of 1977 was due to a lab outbreak. As well as all the other outbreaks. So no, his Modified Limited Hang-Out that he didn't lie but only maybe had a cognitive bias holds no water: yes, there are, of course, natural hops of viruses from animals and birds to humans. But there are also ample instances of labs leaking out the very viruses they were supposed to be protecting us against. Did Fauci just completely forget about all those cases? Apparently that's his story and he'll be sticking to it in later perjury trials. Emails released in a congressional inquiry indicate that Dr. Fauci was among the senior scientists who encouraged his colleagues to write a paper asserting that the new coronavirus had a natural origin. "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2," published by Nature Medicine in March 2020, concluded "we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is possible." "He's not sure he ever got around to reading the paper." Notice how noncommittal he is about this lie. He wants to chalk it up to a lapse in memory in case proof emerges that he gave it a final edit. He's doing a lot of perjury-trial preparation here. With Mr. Trump sneering about "kung flu" and "China virus," it was easy to write off a lab-leak hypothesis as a right-wing fantasy. Boy, they sure do give themselves every possible latitude for being wrong about everything. Trump is always Forcing Them to Be Wrong. Just as conservatives sometimes force trans lunatics to kill Christian children. Has it ever occurred to you that if the extent of your "thinking" is just automatically taking the position opposite of Trump's, you're a childish, mentally-ill non-thinker? Did Trump force you to be a childish, mentally-ill nonthinker? Is that also one of his crimes? The MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace called it "one of Trumpworld's most favorite conspiracy theories." Twitter added warning labels to posts that argued for lab leak; Facebook banned such posts altogether for several months in 2021 before reversing the decision. NPR called it a "baseless conspiracy theory" in a tweet, and the foreign affairs expert Fareed Zakaria wrote (and repeated on CNN): "The far right has now found its own virus conspiracy theory." This is a good point coming up, which many of you have pointed out: Fauci both claimed that the lab leak theory was racist... while claiming the virus really emerged due to Chinese people's disgusting practices in dirty "wet markets:" But was that really about the lab? As I recall, people harped about bats, made cruel comments about Chinese food and stigmatized Chinese markets like this: But to say that Chinese scientists made this bat virus in a laboratory dedicated to creating new variations of bat viruses, using money from Peter Daszak and Antony Fauci, would be "racist."
She notes that even when it became clear that the lab leak theory was a very viable theory which had been prematurely dismissed by people like Daszak and Fauci due to their own involvement in the Wuhan Bat Virus lab, her media friends on the left found ways to continue insinuating it was all a Trumpist Conspiracy Theory:
That's my favorite: Even if it leaked from a lab, it's still a natural outbreak. I mean, obviously he's a Real Scientist who has an open mind and just goes where the evidence takes him, right? He's definitely not a zealot who will twist the facts violently to support the One Truth he knows in his heart must be right. | Recent Comments
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