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Gun Thread: Four Year Anniversary Edition!![]() Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do! Four years! Can you believe we've been doing this for four years now? That's right boys and girls, this is the 208th edition of the Ol' Sunday Gun Thread. Oh, we've laughed, and we've cried, and I think overall we've generally had a good time. I try and say this every week but it is all y'all that make this fun and special and a sure do appreciate you showing up and participating each week. Thank you! By the time you read this I will have wrapped up a trip to the farm and shooting was definitely on the top of the to-do list. Check the comments for some initial reports! TXMoMe Request: If you are coming to Texas and have a spotting scope, please bring it if you can! Thanks! With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we? Memory Lane I went deep into the archives and found the very first Gun Thread posted on August 26, 2018. Here is the whole thing! My, how the ol' GT has evolved. ![]() So what bullet did Barney keep in his pocket? Why it's none other than our old friend the .38 Special! Introduced in 1898 to replace the underperforming U.S. Service Cartridge in .38 Long Colt during the Philippine-American War, the .38 Special cartridge was for many years standard issue for military units and law enforcement agencies and to this day remains popular with with recreational shooters. The name of the cartridge itself is somewhat misleading. With a bullet diameter of .357 inches or just over 9mm, the ".38" refers to the approximate diameter of the loaded cartridge including the case. A favorite of handloaders, a common load sends a 158 gr lead or jacketed bullet towards the target at a muzzle velocity generally under 900 fps, thus falling somewhere between the .380 ACP and 9x19 Para in terms of energy. Higher velocity "+P" loads improve the cartridge terminal ballistic performance, but are not recommended for revolvers not rated for the higher pressures. Whether using commercial ammunition or target handloads, the .38 is an absolute pleasure to shoot and the mild recoil makes it a great choice for newer shooters developing basic skills and experienced marksmen, alike. The simplicity and safety of revolvers continues to make the .38 Special a popular choice for self defense, as countless gun safes, sock drawers and bedside tables will attest. Ford vs. Chevrolet ![]() 1942 Colt Official Police ![]() 1948 S&W K38 ![]() 1977 S&W Model 15 Let's just say that Colt and S&W collectors are enthusiastic about their favorite brand with very elaborate conventions held around the country each year. If you aren't already spending enough time on the internet, both are represented by lively and civilized discussion forums with devoted contributors and are great places to browse and have questions answered. Colt Collectors Association So which one did Deputy Fife carry? Apparently both brands saw action in Mayberry. While the publicity photo above appears to show a Colt, it is reported that for some episodes of the Andy Griffith Show a Smith & Wesson was provided by the prop department. Colt or S&W? Do you have a favorite? This Old Gun Send in Your Guns! That's it for this week - have you been to the range? Guns of the Horde ![]() ![]() The model 52 was designed for target shooting and has a really sweet trigger. I haven't shot this in about a year and wanted to take it to the range Friday night, but I couldn't remember whether Jesse had taken it out of our rotation because something needed fixing, or if we were just shifting more to revolvers and rifles. Anyway, I remember finding it fun and easy to shoot even for a beginner. It feels ever so slightly bigger and heavier than my Rock Island 1911 (and it actually is, according to my googling, at least unloaded), but still very comfortable in my hands. I'd like to try it again with a little more experience under my belt. ![]() Screaming in Digital even found the following excellent video on the Model 52 for your viewing pleasure: Beautiful pistol, SiD, and great video. Thank you! Next up, our pal That Deplorable SOB Van Owen shares a real winner! ![]() ![]() I'm sending you some pictures of one of my favorite guns, a United States Firearms Manufacturing Company Single Action Army clone in .45 Colt. It's a great shooter and fits the hand remarkably well. It points where you look. The backstory of the USFA company is pretty interesting. That's a beauty TDSOBVO! Thanks for sending it in! Next up, our pal Beckoning Chasm shares a picture of his Derringer. ![]() This is a photo of my Cobra CB38BB, which is a Derringer, but unlike every other Derringer I've seen, it fires .38 Special instead of .22. Before you ask, no, I've never fired it. I just thought it was pretty cool when I bought it a few years ago. Very nice Beckoning Chasm! Are you saving it for a card game gone bad? Finally, but not leastly, our pal Inogame shares a real treasure! ![]() ![]() It is a Colt series 70 national match in a display box and with .22 conversion kit. When I saw this for sale I just couldn't talk myself out of it. Even performed my CCW qualification with it. In IL where I was living at the time they tested 30 rounds, ten rounds each at 10 yards, 7 yards and 5 yards (target below). The gun is a bit loose and could use a proper run through, but that is comparing it to my Ted Yost custom 1911... which is not fair. This is still a shooter. ![]() Beautiful pistol and nice shooting, Inogame! Thank you! 33 Days! PRO TIP: Word has it there may be some, well let's just call them "exotic" weapons, available to shoot in Texas. I don't want to go into a bunch of specifics, but if you like shooting at a high cyclic rate, plan on bringing a box of brass case 9mm ball ammo (example) with you to Texas. Please, NO reloads! Q: Weasel, what the heck is a "high cyclic rate"? Q: Weasel, why do I want to do that? As long as we're on the subject, if you aren't planning to bring a firearm and ammo, but plan on shooting, please pick up a box or two of ammo in the caliber you like and bring it to Texas. Each year we have lots and lots of guns, and even more shooters, and it's nice have the cost and effort needed to source the ammunition spread around a bit. We want to make the shooting available to as many as possible, and cover those who want to shoot but for whatever reason cannot bring ammo, so every little bit helps. Thank you! Holy Shitballs, people. Have I not implored and cajoled you enough? Do you require additional imploring and cajoling? I challenge you to find a single person who has attended a TXMoMe and not found it to be a life altering experience. Life altering for the good even! So please quit screwing around and making up reasons not to commit and start planning on getting your ass to Texas in October! You will see this material again, so for heaven's sake, so do yourself a favor and email Ben Had for details! Schedule O' TXMoMe Doin's ![]() This seems like a good time to talk a little bit about the upcoming shooting program at the TXMoMe. What started years ago as an informal plinking session lasting a couple of hours has matured into a full program of shooting activities over two days. I have to thank Ben Had, Cow Horse Queen and RancherBob for allowing the shooting to comprise such a significant portion of the TXMoMe. For a while I have been conducting a Rifle Clinic on Friday morning followed by range time Friday afternoon and then again well in to Saturday. We have also been steadily refining the handgun portion of the program to now include an IDPA-esque move-and-shoot pistol course designed and run by Ben Had and Nurse R, as well as the usual static pistol range for those who prefer that. Anyhoo, here's a very rough outline of the schedule of events. Times are tentative and subject to modification/change. Friday, 10/21 Handgun Program Saturday, 10/22 Handgun Program Again, these times are approximate and may change as weather conditions and participation warrant. I have been doing the same presentation on rifles for a number of years now, so if you would like me to cover new or different material, just mention it in the comments or send me an email! More on Ammo for Texas Let's talk a little more about bringing ammunition to the TXMoMe. The options are buy it at home and ship it UPS, buy it at home and ship it in your airline checked baggage, or just buy it once you get to Texas. Let's begin with the easiest, first. Texas is awash in shooting and outdoor stores, and you really shouldn't have any trouble using this option. There are a lot of sporting goods stores on the south side of Dallas and in the towns all the way down I-45 to Corsicana. A quick internet search should return several options, and you might want to identify a couple before you leave home. Next, there is a store in Corsicana, Brinson PowerSports, that has a generally reliable stock of major calibers, although ammo is not listed on their website. I'd suggest calling first and asking if they have what you're looking for. The physical address and phone number is: 1931 Martin Luther King Blvd. Corsicana, TX 75110 903-229-4330 Honestly, sourcing ammo locally seems like the most logical choice to me, but for those of you with special needs, it's pretty easy to fly with ammunition in your checked baggage. Here I am speaking in very general terms and it is incumbent upon YOU to check in advance with your airline, confirm the requirements, and comply with them. Southwest Airlines is a popular option into the Dallas area, and I have found them to be gun friendly as far as these things go. Here is what I found on the Southwest Airlines Special Baggage webpage: Packing Ammunition Small arms ammunition for personal use (provided it is properly packed) is permissible in checked baggage only. So my read is that ammunition in its original cardboard container is all you need, and it does not have to be locked inside another container inside your bag as required for a firearm, and you are allowed up to 11 pounds carried in this fashion. Although the instructions are silent on declaring the ammunition to airline personnel, again as you must do when transporting a firearm, I think it's probably a good idea to do so. You may or may not be allowed to check your baggage curbside when traveling with ammunition, so be prepared for a little extra time at the counter. Again, this is my interpretation and as we all know I am mostly full of shit, so check for yourselves. Every airline has a section like this on their website, usually found in the baggage section, and you may have to dig around a little to find it. I also recommend printing your specific airline's policy and bringing it with you on the trip, just in case you need to help the ticket agent understand how to do their job. I will say in all the years of flying all over the country to matches, I have never once had any problem with airline personnel and their rules and have always found them well informed and helpful. Finally, if you are really a special needs shooter, our bestest buddy and pal and host RancherBob has offered to allow people to ship their ammunition to the ranch. I would recommend this only in very unique circumstances where very specific ammunition is required and neither of the other, simpler options will work. If this is you, then contact me for details. I have shipped ammunition via UPS in the past and it works, but there are strict packaging and labeling requirements and also necessitates you visit an actual UPS location rather than a retail shipping store. Also remember, you cannot ship ammunition via USPS. Questions? Just ask! Musical Interlude Is that great or what? Gun Basics 101 I've included this video from the She Equips Herself gal before, but figured it's time for a refresher on gun store etiquette. Cigar of the Week Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar. Cigarsinternational.com Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who make a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site! Ammo Link-O-Rama I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo This week's mailbag entry is from our pal WTM ![]() Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. 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