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October 01, 2021

National Divorce: A Solution Attracting More and More Support

Thanks to Braenyard, a near-majority support secession.

The VERY divided states of America: More than half of Trump voters and 41% of Biden supporters want red and blue states to SECEDE from the union, shock new poll finds

52% of Trump voters want red states to secede from the union, and 41% of Biden voters want blue states to split off

Over 40% of voters in both parties favor abolishing the checks and balances built into federal government and giving the president greater control

Over 75% of voters on both sides agree that strong supporters of the opposite party present a 'clear and present danger' to American life

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Meanwhile, 56% of Biden voters at least somewhat agreed with the statement 'There's no real difference between Republicans and Fascists' and 76% of Trump voters agreed with the statement 'There's no real difference between Democrats and Socialists.'

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In June, a survey found that a whopping two-thirds of Republicans in the South favored secession, while nearly half of Democrats in the Pacific region and 40% in the Northeast felt the same.

Support for secession is also considerable among independents in the Midwest and Great Lakes regions, where 43 percent say they would favor breaking away and forming their own country.

Half of independents in the South also favor secession while 43 percent of Republicans in the Rocky Mountain states share the same view.

It's time.

Dave Reaboi coincidentally wrote on this subject today, using a joke I'm fond of myself: National Divorce is expensive, but worth every penny.

As with any breakup or divorce, even if we had a popular consensus for a National Divorce in principle, there are all kinds of details--and massive, very thorny ones, like who gets which territories, populations, industries or nuclear weapons caches--that could cause tumultuous and potentially violent negotiations. All these points of contention are very real and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand; they're not going anywhere. The seriousness of these issues and their daunting solutions are meant to prove that the breakup of the United States will always be an impossibility.

But that's not right. National Divorce or some other, more tragic and chaotic outcome won’t be impossible forever. Despite heaping dollops of patriotic propaganda--which, admittedly, is essential to maintenance of the citizens' faith in the regime--one day, the United States will end. History teaches us that regimes, like all human creations, rise and fall--and world-bestriding empires fall harder, faster, and more surely than that. Admitting this is a possibility isn't as accurate as understanding it as a certainty; yes, the timeline is hazy, but it's coming.

And, as one approaches the crisis and contempt between Americans builds beyond what is currently imaginable, those thorny points of contention--heretofore enough to reduce National Divorce to a laugh-line--become real objects of debate and deliberative thought...

It's interesting that those with the strongest objections to National Divorce today seem to base their (admittedly legitimate) worry about those horrific split-up scenarios rather than make a principled, Lincolnesque argument about the insolubility of the Union. Of course, appeals to Boomer Patriotism still exist, but I'm not sure if that kind of thing gets very many people going anymore. As that generation recedes from its long reign over the nation’s political and cultural life--to be replaced by a more combative cohort weaned on civilizational exhaustion and a sense of impending collapse--we'll see even less.

BTW, I think I invented the term "National Divorce." I knew "civil war" didn't sell. And "secession" had too many negative connotations.

I thought branding it as "National Divorce" would make it more conceivable.

Speaking of civil war, Ryan Williams at the Claremont Institute talks about that possibility, and the seriousness of the Red/Blue divide, with a Boomer Liberal from the Atlantic.


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