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Gun Thread: Locking Up Your Guns [Weasel]The simple days of gun storage We've talked quite a bit about rifles and handguns, but not much about storage options for them when not in use. Has your collection grown too large(?), or too valuable for your existing storage solution? What about other considerations, such as safety and prevention from unauthorized use? Let's take a look at some options, shall we? Where and how to store weapons is a topic that doesn't always get much attention. After all, gun safes are big, bulky, expensive, and tend to last, well, just about forever. In fact, what most of us have come to think of as a "gun safe" really aren't certified as gun safes, at all, but rather are more likely considered a Residential Security Container (RSC). Price can quickly become a consideration, and a true safe can cost a lot of money. Given that, what are some of the considerations when you are looking to buy, and do you really need a "safe" at all? As with many things, this is a lot more complicated than meets the eye. Safes are certified in one way or another, attesting to their fire and burglary protection, and some manufacturer's claims can be deceptively vague. Everyone is familiar with the Underwriters Laboratory (UL) symbol, which is the gold standard for testing a lot of the products we use everyday. There are also private laboratory certifications and other national testing laboratory standards around the world. Safes which are independently (or factory) tested may not conform to any standards at all if the testing isn't stringently conducted, so a buyer needs to at least have a basic understanding of what the ratings mean. Fire Ratings and How Fire Resistance is Measured: The Class 350 Standard Altough I was unable to (quickly) find a specific authority to cite, the consensus, at least among among safe makers, seems to indicate the average house fire is extinguished in about 20-30 minutes and reaches approximately 1,100-1,200 degrees farenheit. Obviously, some fires may be hotter and might last longer depending on the circumstances, but the 30 minute/1,200 degree condition appears to be a reasonable place to start. Burglary and Theft Resistance: The RSC Attack Level A true gun safe offers much greater theft protection and is rated on a different scale. Locking Mechanism Size: It Matters Well Shit - Where Does that Leave Us? Everyone's circumstances are different and only you can decide what's right for you. Since we still need some pictures to make this thread less boring, I'll add a few readily available options and some commentary on them below. [links in photos] Here is an option for the car. Not a bad choice for quick, temporary storage. Here is an option for home, perhaps in a bedside location. I don't personally have any experience with a biometric lock system, but they supposedly offer quick, unkeyed access. Here is a slightly bigger option for home. Note this safe claims to offer some fire protection, however it must be bolted to the floor to offer theft protection. Here's a locker to keep out the mostly curious, but offers no real fire protection and very little in the way of security from a determined thief. Here's an option that relies on being hidden inside a wall for theft protection, but offers little in the way of fire protection. (h/t Uncle Si) Now we're getting a little more serious. Liberty Safe is, I think, the largest producer of RSC's and gun safes. This model offers moderate fire and theft protection and isn't too bad price-wise at under $1,000, although freight and delivery charges must also be considered. Finally we have an actual safe offering excellent security and fire protection. These can weigh more than 2 tons, so freight and delivery charges can be significant.
So how have you addressed your security and storage concerns? Any other suggestions or recommendations? Link-O-Rama Helpful Website - Safe Buying Guide Article: Gun Safe Fire Ratings Article: 10 Things to Know When Buying a Safe Article: More on Fire Safety Ratings Article: Still More on Fire Ratings Article: Theft Protection UL: Residential Security Container Standards
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