Intermarkets' Privacy Policy

Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!

Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups

Good News...Senate Reaches Deal To Extend Unemployment Benefits | Main | Chuck Schumer: Hey Republicans, Either Get Going On Amnesty Or Obama's Going To Stop Deporting People.
March 14, 2014

More Evidence That Flight 370 Was Intentionally Diverted

This has stopped being a morbid curiosity and become something more menacing.

Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints - indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training - when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.


A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing increasingly on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight...

The Andsmans are a chain of hundreds of islands off the coast of India. Most are uninhabited.

India has announced a reconnaissance of the islands.

Indian officials have begun searching hundreds of uninhabited islands in the Andaman Sea using heat-seeking devices in the search for the Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared six days ago.


The archipelago, which stretches south of Burma, contains 572 islands across an area of 52 x 720km. Only 37 are inhabited, with the rest covered in dense forests.

It has been assumed (I think) that the plane had to land at an airport, either a functioning one or abandoned one, but if one is on an uninhabited island with some logging machines and a bulldozer, couldn't a group make their own dirt-strip landing area?

More at Hot Air, including a report from ABCNews that Flight 370's two communication systems were shut off separately, suggesting, again, that this was done by human action.

Many people are probably fearing the worst. Allah notes that one general was willing to Go There.

Gen. Tom McInerney casually wondered this morning on Fox News whether maybe jihadis targeted the plane because they need a delivery mechanism for, er, a nuclear weapon.

Something horrible like this would explain why there has been no terrorist chatter about the event (assuming it actually is terrorism). You don't talk about Act I until you've accomplished Act II.

Speculations: If one or more pilots intended suicide, they just would have crashed the plane, not flown it for hours more.

If it were a hijacking with an intended 9/11-style crash into a nearby city (like New Dehli or Bombay), presumably they would have just done that (assuming they had the fuel to reach those places, which I provisionally assume they would have).

However, if the intended target city was in America, presumably hijackers would have to fuel up the plane. I think planes are not loaded with excess fuel, only enough to reach their destination and a quantity of reserve fuel. So a plane bound for China would not have the fuel to reach North America.

I doubt the tanks could even hold so much fuel, but I don't know. This is pure speculation of the worst kind -- uninformed speculation.

If a 9/11-style attack on the American mainland is intended, it could be that the plane had to be landed in order to retrofit the passenger cabin with additional fuel tanks (and these of course would need to be connected to the main tanks, which would take time and tools and expertise).

Given what we uninformed people are now learning about radar and satellite coverage, it seems as if a plane can fly over thousands of miles of ocean without fear of being detected at all. It would only be when a plane comes within several hundred miles (or so) of a well-radared country that it would even be detected.

Which would give American airspace control only a half hour or hour to make a decision about passenger plane flying without transponders and without a flight plan.

Even worse, terrorists could keep most of the passengers alive and pack them aboard the plane -- thus giving the US the choice of killing over one hundred Chinese nationals or letting a plane crash into a US city.

Obviously we'd shoot it down. But maybe live Chinese passengers, killed by US jet pilots, is their Plan B, in case of a shoot-down.

Commenter Objections: Several commenters make the point that while a dirt-strip runway could be used, in a pinch, for a landing, it couldn't be used for a subsequent take-off. A heavy plane will sink, they say, into the dirt on anything other than tarmac or some other engineered surface.

I still don't think this rules out my Uninformed Speculation.

The fact is, the US military builds airports pretty quickly.

But Drew says:

A triple 7 weighs 600,000 pounds empty. On a dirt strip? Even paved you have to have a runway several feet thick. It's not like putting down 2 inches for a side road.

Again, you're ignoring what it takes to land a commercial jet and the amount of technology that pilots use to backup their approach.

Also, the plane took off at midnight local and flew for *west* for 6 or 7 hours total. It would still be dark by the time they got to these islands.

You have a great movie script but not one based on actually landing one of the largest commercial aircraft out there.

digg this
posted by Ace at 11:53 AM

| Access Comments

Recent Comments
Axeman: "Elizabeth Warren really doesn't know what "accompl ..."

weft cut-loop[/i][/b] [/s]: "[i]"Who is General Failure & why is he reading my ..."

FenelonSpoke: "Posted by: Oldcat at July 24, 2024 05:37 PM (eoQWY ..."

Hour of the Wolf: "How to fix Disney in five simple steps: Posted ..."

...: "So they're gonna play the sympathy card, eh? He's ..."

Kumala Word Salad: "Shapiro as Governor will have the power to “ ..."

LizLem: ">>> I find Ryan Reynolds intensely irritating, but ..."

Lane Thomas Graves: "[I]For those of you who aren't as good at math at ..."

Biff Pocoroba: "I want Donald Trump and Kamala Harris to be guest ..."

red speck: "These are the same people who couldn't fathom why ..."

Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever![/s] [/b] [/u]: "The one word American actors pretending to be Brit ..."

Itinerant Alley Butcher: "As long as there is an EPCOT there will be Dyke Da ..."

Recent Entries

Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64