Liveblog: Obama's Like a Fiscal Conservative or Something; Plus: Death Toll For Paul Ryan's Hateful Incitment Stands At Zero, But Is Expected To Climb

Full Speech Leaked: The beginning of the speech is crowd-pleasing stuff, as he basically talks a conservative-sounding tune about achievement and so on -- stuff no one can disagree with.

Then he gets into storytime, telling stories of the California Institute of Technology finding ways to make fuel from "sunlight and water," and Race to the Top, and etc. Basically he's selling government, and selling it hard, talking up sci-fi possibilities (discounting the possibility that such advances don't need a government patron, or haven't, in the past) and stuff people deem precious (education of their children) as his method of pushing his foot in the door for continuing, expanding big government.

More: My Lord, this is long. Really long. I think this is going to be more than a 100 minutes.

Important! I repeat again, when you comment on the liveblog, your comments don't post! What happens is your comments appear in a queue, and the cobloggers see them, and pick and choose which to then post out in the liveblog.

We can't have 10,000 people commenting multiple times every minute -- you couldn't even follow it. And the software doesn't permit that anyway.

So please, no "my comments aren't posting" stuff. They're not comments; they're sort of statements to the moderators.

As far as what gets posted and what doesn't: Bear in mind, in many cases, people notice the same point at the same time. For example, Obama will undoubtedly turn up his chin into what a reader called his "Mussolini profile." Now, if ten people say, "Lifting his chin again," obviously, we're not going to post all ten people saying that. We'll post one person saying that. There's no point in posting ten people saying the same thing.

Generally we look for stuff that's inobvious factual stuff (not just like, "he's so full of shit") or funny stuff.

Stuff which is true but obvious/universally believed -- like "God I hate watching this guy" -- probably won't get published, just because, well, Join the club, dude.

If you want a place where your comment definitely will be published and be part of the, ahem, permanent record, hey, the actual comments still work too of course.

posted by Ace at 07:42 PM

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