Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!



Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups


Texas MoMe 2024: 10/18/2024-10/19/2024 Corsicana,TX
Contact Ben Had for info





















« A Call for Consistency | Main | Hoh Boy: Murkowski Meets With Libertarian Candidate »
September 07, 2010

Obama's Former OMB Director: Yeah, We Should Keep All The "Bush Tax Cuts" For Awhile. Then We're Going To Have To Raise Taxes On The Middle Class

Peter Orszag says, you can keep your damn tax cuts for two years then it's back to work for your masters at the federal government.

In the face of the dueling deficits, the best approach is a compromise: extend the tax cuts for two years and then end them altogether. Ideally only the middle-class tax cuts would be continued for now. Getting a deal in Congress, though, may require keeping the high-income tax cuts, too. And that would still be worth it.

Why does this combination make sense? The answer is that over the medium term, the tax cuts are simply not affordable. Yet no one wants to make an already stagnating jobs market worse over the next year or two, which is exactly what would happen if the cuts expire as planned.

Higher taxes now would crimp consumer spending, further depressing the already inadequate demand for what firms are capable of producing at full tilt. And since financial markets don’t seem at the moment to view the budget deficit as a problem — take a look at the remarkably low 10-year Treasury bond yield — there is little reason not to extend the tax cuts temporarily.

So much for not raising taxes for anyone making under $250K.

Orszag is also nuts about the politics of this. It will be just as hard to raise taxes in 2 years leading up to the '12 elections.

Here's the thing I never get about liberals, if taxes are bad in a recession because they do bad things to the economy, why is raising taxes ever a good thing? And oh, I thought whenever conservatives talk about cutting taxes the cry is always that there's no proof they stimulate the economy? It seems liberals want to have it both ways when it's convenient.

The real truth is they are simply more interested in increased government influence over the market and individuals. If you have to run more of your money through them just to get by on what you are allowed to keep and the "services" you are given (with your own damn money), then government is more and more important and powerful.

In Orszag's telling of it, cutting the federal budget is simply a non-starter, there's nothing left to cut.

Let’s look at the facts. The projected deficit for 2015 is 4 percent to 5 percent of G.D.P., depending on whose assumptions you use. A sustainable level is more like 3 percent or lower. So we need deficit reduction of 1 percent to 2 percent of G.D.P., or about $200 billion to $400 billion a year by 2015. These figures are uncertain, but they’re the best we have (and they may well turn out to be too optimistic).

How much savings is plausible on the spending side? Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security will account for almost half of spending by 2015. Even if we reform Social Security, which we should, any plausible plan would phase in benefit changes to avoid harming current beneficiaries — and so would generate little savings over the next five years. The health reform act included substantial savings in Medicare and Medicaid, so there aren’t further big reductions available there in our time frame.

The other half of the budget is mostly net interest (which is not negotiable unless we renege on our debt) and discretionary spending. Discretionary spending is split roughly equally between defense and non-defense spending. The defense component already assumes a phase-down in both Iraq and Afghanistan; saving an additional 5 percent of the Pentagon’s base budget would be a substantial accomplishment and would yield about 0.2 percent of G.D.P. Cutting 5 percent out of non-defense discretionary spending, a stretch politically, would save about as much.

Put aside the farce of the health care bill saving any money and consider the rest.

He says we need to save between 200 and 400 billion dollars a year over the next 5 years. Unpossible! Raise taxes to the levels of the 1990s and everything will be fine!

How about we cut spending back to the horrible days of...2007 and 2008? How could this miracle be accomplished? By rolling back the spending increases that the so-called "stimulus" bill baked into the cake moving forward.

All of the major news outlets are reporting that the stimulus bill voted out of conference committee last night has a meager $789 billion price tag. This number is pure fantasy. No one believes that the increased funding for programs the left loves like Head Start, Medicaid, COBRA, and the Earned Income Tax Credit is in anyway temporary. No Congress under control of the left will ever cut funding for these programs. So what is the true cost of the stimulus if these spending increases are made permanent?

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) asked the Congressional Budget Office to estimate the impact of permanently extending the 20 most popular provisions of the stimulus bill. What did the CBO find? As you can see from the table below, the true 10 year cost of the stimulus bill $2.527 trillion in in spending with another $744 billion cost in debt servicing. Total bill for the Generational Theft Act: $3.27 trillion.

Ignore the debt service number on the added spending and focus on the $2.527 trillion over the next decade. Let's see, divide by 10, carry the two, ah yes. that's $250 billion in cuts per year over the next decade. That's right in the 200-400 billion range, right?

Of course, I'm interested in cutting back below the level of the Bush years but this seems like a good start.

budgetdebt.jpg


Let's be honest, economics has nothing to do with the Democrats tax positions. They simply want to 'spread the wealth around' to their favorite groups and increase federal power. Nothing more, nothing less.


digg this
posted by DrewM. at 03:57 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere [/i] [/b]: "'Tis Friday, the consummation devoutly to be wishe ..."

RedMindBlueState[/i][/b][/s][/u]: "Particle Physics: Consider a vaporized mohammedan ..."

Skip: "Chinese Grand Prix this weekend, missed Friday pr ..."

Divide by Zero [/i]: " [i]Micron is receiving $6 billion under the CHIP ..."

Skip: "G'Day everyone ..."

Ciampino - Update #38: "Particle Physics: Consider a vaporized mohammedan ..."

Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere [/i] [/b]: "Noodus pixyana ..."

Ciampino - Update #38: "Particle Physics: Consider a vaporized mohammedan ..."

Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere [/i] [/b]: "Oops, didn't mean to have the caps lock on. E ..."

Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere [/i] [/b]: "FIRST? ..."

Ciampino - Update #37: "500 Ciampino that still didn't stop.the withdraw d ..."

Skip: "French Toast today, wish had sausages ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64