Sponsored Content

Intermarkets' Privacy Policy

Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!

Recent Entries
Absent Friends
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups

Punked: School Teachers Tell High School Students That Several of Their Classmates Were Killed in Horrific Car Accidents... But They Weren't | Main | Does the Liar Jay Carney Even Read His Own Crap Magazine?
June 12, 2008

Time Liar Jay Carney: Michelle "Whitey" Rumor Circulated By... (Wait for It...) Conservative Bloggers

I'd normally say this demonstrates how clueless the MSM is, but here there is no other possible explanation except a deliberate lie. Everyone who has heard the rumor knows precisely where it came from, and everyone knows that that is hyperliberal Hillary supporter Larry Johnson, and everyone further knows that the conservative blogosphere has (as far as I know, though of course I don't read every blog) debunked the rumor and stated, with 99% confidence, it's flat-out false.

We couldn't say, with Andrea Mitchell here, that it's 100% not true and we know that for a fact, for the simple reason one can't prove a negative, one can only say how unlikely the positive is. Andrea trumps us, of course, by testifying to facts of which she knows not. I guess we should be rapped for not claiming, as she does, that we know based upon personal information it is definitely false.

There are undoubtedly some conservative bloggers who pushed this as true. However, most said it wasn't true, pretty emphatically, considering, again, it's beyond our actual ability to say it's untrue with personal eyewitness authority.

But even allowing for the conservative bloggers who did suggest it's true, how come Larry Johnson's seminal role -- he is the first and most zealous peddler of the claim; he's the one whom everyone, including those in the MSM, got the rumor from in the first plalce -- is so conveniently overlooked in Jay Carney's precis?

If he says he didn't know that Larry Johnson is the first, best, and last proponent of this rumor, then I say he's a goddamned deliberate liar.

And if he says he didn't know that conservatives greeted the rumor, in the main, with skepticism verging on dismissiveness, I say he's a goddamned deliberate liar again.

He should retract and confess his deliberate lie or be fired. A reporter gets away with a lot of shading and bias, but he is not allowed to report "facts" he knows with 100% certainty are 100% demonstrably false.

Liberals like to claim to be nuanced and that their greatest failing is their overemphasis on fairness and integrity, but of course that's horseshit. The simplest, most idiotic, most false claim to make here is that conserevative bloggers pushed the rumor -- a simplistic line that has the virtue of fitting well with The Narrative and not injecting doubt or complexity into the storyline: Conservatives can't be trusted, conservatives push false rumors, conservatives engage in deception character assassination in order to advance their dubious cause -- all these things are a given -- so of course it is conservatives behind this rumor.

Nice and simple. Not nuanced, of course, because the "nuance" here -- it was actually pushed by a hyperliberal rabid Hillary supporter -- would complicate the nice, neat storyline.

It's also completely false, of course. But again, the neatness and simplicity (and political usefulness) of Jay Carney's lie is more important than the messy and inconvenient truth of the matter.

So he just deliberately lied to an audience of millions. Wait, this seems to be MSNBC. He deliberately lied to an audience of several dozen thousands.

Because he's so concerned about accuracy, fairness, and nuance, you understand.

digg this
posted by Ace at 04:39 PM

| Access Comments

Recent Comments
SMOD 2024: "“Better angels! More like ‘bitter ange ..."

[/i][/b]andycanuck (2yu8s)[/s][/u]: "Maybe the Justice [i]IS[/i] the baggage?? ..."

Northernlurker : "Babbling, slurring doofus. ..."

GOP: "We'll just wave enough money under his nose and Jo ..."

Oglebay: "Sotomayor may not be healthy but, thanks to Russia ..."

Cicero (@cicero43): "[i]It would be cool if a brawl erupts. Posted by: ..."

MAGA_Ken: "71 It’s racist if I oppose billions of dolla ..."

[/i][/b]andycanuck (2yu8s)[/s][/u]: "I'm guessing the medic travels with that fancy, ne ..."

Thomas Bender: "Basically, Johnson needs to go into the meeting an ..."

"Perfessor" Squirrel: "If Sotomayer kicks the bucket, I'm sure FJB has a ..."

Joe Biden: "I thought she was a Latin X type..... ..."

Auspex: " Don't go and be labelled a obstructionist. Go ..."

Recent Entries

Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64