Intermarkets' Privacy Policy Support
Donate to Ace of Spades HQ! Contact
Ace:aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com Recent Entries
Ditzy Democrat Propagandist Alisyn (That Name!) Camerota Out at CNN
The Bulwark: Now That Hispanics Are Not Voting for the Democrat Party, the True Conservative (TM) Position Is To Deport Their Unapprovedly-Diverse Asses CNN and Fake Jake Tapper Lose Again in Defamation Case Calls for "Black Vigilantes" to Even the Score and (Get This) Riots After the Daniel Penny Verdict "Person of Interest" In Health Care CEO Assassination Caught in Altoona, PA, Identified as Luigi Mangione, "Former Ivy League Student" NYT: He Carried a Manifesto Decrying Health Care Corporations' Greed Verdict: Daniel Penny Is Not Guilty of Anything Daniel Penny Found NOT GUILTY! THE MORNING RANT: Texas Republicans Defeat the Uniparty and Will Finally Elect a Conservative House Speaker Mid-Morning Art Thread The Morning Report — 12/9/24 Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024 Captain Hate 2023 moon_over_vermont 2023 westminsterdogshow 2023 Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022 Dave In Texas 2022 Jesse in D.C. 2022 OregonMuse 2022 redc1c4 2021 Tami 2021 Chavez the Hugo 2020 Ibguy 2020 Rickl 2019 Joffen 2014 AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published.
Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups
|
« "He Said Very Hurtful Things... Then My Shoes Fell Off" |
Main
| Makin' Shit Up AT the LA Times »
April 19, 2005
Still More On Liberals Photographing ConservativesFrom a poster, who says he's a photographer: I have a lot to say about this issue. As a conservative and a professional photographer who has photog. friends who have photographed major politicians and world figures for such magazines as Time and other such pubs., I tend to notice some trends. He then links a couple of websites to prove his point, but I'm not really sure what they prove. You can click on Evan Kafka and Saunders Jonathan, but I really don't see how either supports his claim. Perhaps I'm just not familiar enough with photography. A lot of people keep bringing up that Esquire shot of Clinton with his legs spread as counter-evidence to the suggestion that Time tried (and failed) to make Coulter look bad. The Clinton shot made him look handsome. The only "controversial" part of that was that the shot was angled right into his groin, with his legs spread. But here's the thing -- Clinton obviously willingly posed that way for the photographer. He was not adverse to that shot. If he had been, he could simply have not posed that way. It was speculated that perhaps Clinton sort of meant that pose to be a somewhat-literal "Eat me" to his conservative critics. A bit of groinal gloating. In any event, that shot did not distort Clinton's features, nor lengthen any part of his body into cartoonish proporportions. I don't think Coulter said, "You know what? I think it would be really cool if you tried to make me look as gangly and unattractive as humanly possible." Stop With The Insanity Update: Liberals, and actually a few conservatives, are poo-poohing the idea that any of this is deliberate. Well, Slublog compares Time covers of liberals and Time covers of conservatives. Guess who always looks happy and youthful and handsome? Guess who always seems to look scary if not bizarre? A Picture, and Then a Thousand Words Update: Slublog sends this goofy picture of Bush the Chicago Tribune ran a couple of years ago on page one, five columns wide, above the fold (i.e., big and prominently placed). An unknown angel sends along this Hardball transcript where Matthews bitch-slaps Jim Warren for running a front page shot making Bush look like a giggling retard. HEADLINE: HARDBALL For November 22, 2002 BYLINE: Chris Matthews; Mike Barnicle GUESTS: Jim Warren; Bob Dornan; Al Sharpton; Alan Dershowitz; Noah Oppenheim; HIGHLIGHT: BODY: CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: I'm Chris Matthews. let's play HARDBALL. "The Big Story " in a moment, the "Chicago Tribune" lampoons President Bush in a page one photo. Why does the media league continue to mock this president? ... First, this photo, above the fold, across five columns on page one of the ... So what's behind the continued treatment of Bush as some kind of idiot? I'm Jim Warren, what role did you play in this decision to put that picture on JIM WARREN, CHICAGO TRIBUNE: While a conservative conspiracy theorist, I will admit that I was in the meeting when the decision was made. This had nothing to do with ideology, Chris. This is, after all, a Republican paper at heart, one that has endorsed every single Republican residential candidate for the last Here's the cliff notes on what happened. We picked our big six stories for the day, then we asked the photo editor what he had, as we always do at the end of the meeting. There really wasn't much. We took a look at this Bush photo. We asked what the context was and he erroneously told us, it was well intentioned, but erroneously told us it had something to do with Bush being on a roll following the big U.N. vote. So that's what we thought it was about, somehow chortling, somehow giving aically a thumbs-up to his big victory. If we had known the actual context, which was just him having some fun at the expense of some photographers, who were asked to leave that photo op, we would not have run the photo. You know the criticism we received, and interestingly enough, Chris, was very mld initially, very mild. Nothing like the criticism that the ombudsman, Don ycliff has received from the left, for in their view being a bit of a ninny. But again, if we had known the real context, would not have run it. MATTHEWS: Why did you pick a picture of the president of the United States tat makes him look like a horse's ass? WARREN: Chris, that wasn't the point. It was... MATTHEWS: Everyone watching now, please take a look at this picture and judge for yourself, everyone watching, of all the pictures, this newspaper chose a picture taken by Agence France-Presse, not any of the other wire photos. You hose this. Why? Why this picture? WARREN: We close it because it was in our minds, the best, most interesting poto that we were shown and given the context, we understood that... MATTHEWS: If you believed the context was a funny game between the president and the wire photographers, and that was the context of the pictures, why did you give it top of the fold... WARREN: No, No, Chris... MATTHEWS: ... A-1 five-columns widespread. WARREN: No Chris, you misunderstood me. If we had known that the, what the real context was, which was that he was poking fun at the photographers, we would not have used it. We were led to believe that it was in some way tied to the U.N. vote and Bush basically chortling in a we're on a roll kind of aura, following that vote. We... MATTHEWS: Just to straighten something out, Jim, who decides what pictures tor un? The editorial page editor - the editor of the editorial page, or the news division? WARREN: No, in this case, no. Obviously, the news division... MATTHEWS: Well why did you refer a minute ago to the fact of your newspaper having a publisher, an editorial policy on the editorial page, which is historically Republican? What relevance is that to this conversation? WARREN: Oh the relevance is for all the conspiracy theorists out there who think that we sort of move in lock step - I just wanted to say... MATTHEWS: But you know there's a difference between... WARREN: Well yes... MATTHEWS: ... what [Sulzberger, owner of the NYT] thinks about fighting in the Middle East and what Howell Raines thinks about it. Howell Raines controls the news pages in "The New York Times". Isn't it a red herring to be talking about what the editor of the editorial page thinks or the publisher thinks when this is a newspaper editorial decision by the news division? WARREN: No, I'm just giving you a larger context here. There's not some reflexive nation magazine in these "Time's" Magazine animist toward Bush here. And we've treated him extremely solicitously in our news pages. We made what was probably the wrong decision here based on a faulty premise If we had known why he was making that funny face, Chris... MATTHEWS: OK. WARREN: ... we would not have used it. MATTHEWS: Jim, I want to ask you before we get further in this, it was partially your decision or entirely your decision? WARREN: No, it was partially - I was sitting next to managing editor helping him run the magazine that day. It was - the newspaper that day - it was the managing editor's final call. But we sat around looking at the photos and we tend to, you know, work by consensus, and none of us said hey, don't run that. We had to do it over again, might we have? Perhaps. ... WARREN: And again, once again, the most passionate reaction, guys, was not from conservatives, but was from liberals and about two to 300 e-mails have already come in, in the last 24 hours, unhappy with the aforementioned mbudsman's bashing of us that Chris alluded to. [As I noted: Liberals LOVE getting criticism from liberals; that allows they to claim "we're getting it from both sides, so we must obviously be neutral." But it's just idiotic mau-mauing.] MATTHEWS: So the liberal readership supports the decision by the editors and not that of the ombudsman. WARREN: Well, they thought that he was being a little bit too harsh on us. I just want to say that the folks... MATTHEWS: Well that's sort of a usual suspect's response, though, isn't it? [Is Matthews on f'n' fire here or what?] ... ...
BARNICLE: Well in retrospect, yes it was. MATTHEWS: Was it a mistake for you, Jim, to run this picture on the front page, A-1? WARREN: I've already committed hari-kiri here, Chris. (CROSSTALK) WARREN: What more do you want out of me? MATTHEWS: ... to get one more drop of blood (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Is this wrong, WARREN: Yes, if we had to do it all over again... DORNAN: Chris... WARREN: ... we wouldn't. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: That's it. Look, when you made your deal, stop talking. What a bitch-slapping. I've edited out all the useless comments by the useless Mike "Let me give you some local color about the firemen in Brooline" Barnicle and Bob "You know exactly what I'm going to say on every single topic" Dornan. The Tribune's Ombudsmen Joined in the Bitch-Slapping Too Update: All very dated now, of course, but here's that Ombudsman's piece mentioned in the Hardball transcript. Thanks for that to MarkD.
| Recent Comments
four seasons:
"
Hello
..."
BurtTC: "MLB broke their own DH rule (changed it) so Ohtani ..." gdgm+: "Well... bye. ..." 18-1: "Looks like "baby birding" got popular a few years ..." JackStraw: "Back surgeries don't just present the problem of p ..." Oldcat: "Luigi Mangione has a trespassing record from Decem ..." bonhomme[/i][/i][/i][/b][/b][/b][/s][/s][/s][/u][/u][/u]: "Is anyone surprised Nancy Mace was filmed at a par ..." [/i][/b]andycanuck (hovnC)[/s][/u]: "Mangione's handgun with magazine... https://tin ..." t-bird: "[i]He has to pardon anyone Hunter could be compell ..." Auspex: "204 192 I don't know how back surgery makes people ..." Chuck Martel: "No doubt trying to run her out of the House _____ ..." Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come: "[i]275 Mentioning AllahPundit reminded me of Mabe ..." Recent Entries
Ditzy Democrat Propagandist Alisyn (That Name!) Camerota Out at CNN
The Bulwark: Now That Hispanics Are Not Voting for the Democrat Party, the True Conservative (TM) Position Is To Deport Their Unapprovedly-Diverse Asses CNN and Fake Jake Tapper Lose Again in Defamation Case Calls for "Black Vigilantes" to Even the Score and (Get This) Riots After the Daniel Penny Verdict "Person of Interest" In Health Care CEO Assassination Caught in Altoona, PA, Identified as Luigi Mangione, "Former Ivy League Student" NYT: He Carried a Manifesto Decrying Health Care Corporations' Greed Verdict: Daniel Penny Is Not Guilty of Anything Daniel Penny Found NOT GUILTY! THE MORNING RANT: Texas Republicans Defeat the Uniparty and Will Finally Elect a Conservative House Speaker Mid-Morning Art Thread The Morning Report — 12/9/24 Search
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Primary Document: The Audio
Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings) George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) |