Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!



Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups






















« Mid-Morning Art Thread | Main | Antifa Shoots and Kills Another Antifa Thug While Trying to Kidnap an Old Man »
September 06, 2022

The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

punk-monkey.jpg

I am second to none in my distaste for savage religious-based laws. Steal in Saudi Arabia, and you might just lose a hand. Traffic drugs and you might just lose your head (wait...I sort of like that one). Be drunk in public and you'll be due a whipping. Proselytize for any religion other than Islam and you will be tossed out of the country...if you are lucky.

But...it's their country, and I don't have to live there, and as long as they don't export that nonsense to America (yes...they are trying) I simply don't care how they treat their citizens or visitors who voluntarily entered the country.

Open Mecca to the World

Imagine that, on conquering Jerusalem in 1967, Israel's government blocked non-Jews from visiting the Temple Mount. Then imagine that a Saudi Muslim sneaked onto the mount, claiming to be a Jewish American, and broadcast his visit on Saudi television. He would surely find global support for defying Israel's "apartheid" regime.

That's roughly what happened in reverse on July 18 when Gil Tamary—a Jewish Israeli television journalist who holds a U.S. passport—broadcast himself on Israeli television cruising around Mecca, the most sacred city of Islam, which is forbidden to non-Muslims. The 10-minute program featured Mr. Tamary's driving by the Great Mosque, passing through Mina, a site on the annual pilgrimage, and climbing Mount Arafat.


Is that a dumb law? Sure. Do I care? No. Once again...It is their country, and they can do what they wish. The arrogance of holding every country on earth to the standards of Western Culture...standards that took 2,500 years to develop...is just silly. It is also the attitude that led to the 20 year quagmire in Afghanistan and the loss of thousands of American lives there and in Iraq.

Pipes also conflates the near universal hatred of Israel and Jews with internal religious rules. The world would criticize Israel for blocking non-Jewish access to the Temple Mount because the world is anti-Semitic and despises Israel. It would be an excuse...nothing more.

The policy of exclusion isn't merely unjust; it's also not mandated by Islam. The Koran, at 9:28, bans only polytheists from the Great Mosque—it doesn't prohibit every non-Muslim from visiting Mecca. As part of his sweeping reforms, Crown Prince Mohammed should open the city of Mecca, its surrounding and Medina to all comers. The mosques may remain exclusive to Muslims, but everything else should be accessible. International and nongovernmental organizations should pressure him to terminate his country's discriminatory laws.

Mr. Tamary took a chance, initiated a discussion and potentially made a historic difference. He deserves respect, not condemnation.


Mr. Pipes displays a startling lack of perspective, since the government of Saudi Arabia doesn't have to justify its interpretation of the Koran to anyone other than its citizens (and they choose not to, and that ain't our business!). And that lack of perspective isn't confined to access to religious sites. He seems to think that this is important, when any sober evaluation of the geopolitical situation in the area will come to the inescapable conclusion that the only issue of substance is the creation of a strong and unified response to the existential issue of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Everything else is subordinate to that, and some attention-seeking journalist going for a big scoop is not helpful. And while I doubt much will come of it, the stunt was not helpful.

Mr. Pipes has long held that moderate Islam is the perfect foil for militant Islam, and I guess he thinks that stunts like this and his suggestion that Saudi Arabia should be dragged into the modern world by outsiders is in furtherance of this.

Except he is wrong. Many moderate Muslims will be offended by this stunt, and their views of the West and militant Islam will harden. When Iran is neutralized and the Mad Mullahs are hanging from gibbets in Azadi Square, then perhaps we should turn our attention to the internal politics of Saudi Arabia.

Or even better...let them run their country the way they want, and what we can do is make a concerted effort to keep those attitudes confined to Saudi Arabia and other fundamentalist countries in the Muslim world.


digg this
posted by CBD at 11:00 AM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
Polliwog the 'Ette: "Posted by: creeper at November 16, 2024 11:06 AM ( ..."

thatcrazyjerseyguy: "Skip, I really can't figure out how your light cre ..."

kallisto: "Negativity is boring AF you sound like a bunch ..."

BurtTC: "Senate R's vote for a Dem president's cabinet but ..."

Justice backhoe operator: "324 'The stench from the long- dead DEI cat ski ..."

Count de Monet: "Give thanks for what we have and leave tomorrow to ..."

one hour sober: "MSU might have 8 wins if Aidan Chiles stopped thro ..."

Sharon(willow's apprentice): "Thanks polliwog. ❤️ ..."

creeper: "Did you know the best-selling truck in the world i ..."

whig's phone: "AH, Like you, I am bemused by some folks that ..."

Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd: "Trump will get the cabinet he wants. And they know ..."

Don Black: ".DEI is the long-dead cat jammed in behind the eng ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64