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AG Barr is an Absolute BALLERBelow, extended quotes from his interview with Jan Crawford. And I do mean extended; Jan Crawford asks questions intended to get to interesting answers, and Barr provides interesting answers. There's not a lot of wasted time in the interview. I recommend listening to the whole thing in its entirety, in podcast form, here. Or just reading the transcript. The interview is an hour long but reading it will take you maybe 20 minutes. To make this skimmable, I've added short captions before each section so you can decide if you're interested in that bit, and added bold and italics (not in the original) throughout to grab the eye. But again, it's worth reading or hearing in full. Here are a quartet of amuses bouches, to whet your appetite. Though he doesn't name them, he's clearly talking about Comey and Brennan, and maybe Clapper and McCabe, here: Sometimes people can convince themselves that what they're doing is in the higher interest, the better good. They don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have. They start viewing themselves as the guardians of the people that are more informed and insensitive than everybody else. They can-- in their own mind, they can have those kinds of motives. And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize. "Higher interest, the better good." Sounds like Comey's book "A Higher Loyalty," no? He talks about that "snitty" letter that Mueller wrote complaining that the media wasn't reporting the Narrative the way he wanted it. The "staff-driven" line is undoubtedly a shot at Andrew Weismann and the 17 Angry Democrats: WILLIAM BARR: I don't, I don't know, but, as I said it in the hearing, I thought it was- the letter was a little snitty and staff-driven-- You heard him. Here he seems to be talking about Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and all the other professional leakers who are questioning his own capability of handling classified information without leaking it: I'm amused by people who make a living disclosing classified information including the names of intelligence operative wringing their hands about whether I can handle classified information. See? Baller. And now to the media, which is taking the odd position, after publishing leaks for two and half years, that Barr must stop his investigation in order to safeguard American secrets: Well the media reaction is strange. Normally the media would be interested in letting the sunshine in and finding out what the truth is. And usually the media doesn't care that much about protecting intelligence sources and methods. But I do and I will. Now, on to the main course. (Some of the above quotes will be re-quoted, in full context.) On whether Mueller could have, and should have, reached a conclusion on obstruction instead of inviting Congress to decide it in an impeachment probe. Note, at the end, Barr suggests, subtly, that it is not Mueller's job to position himself as an Impeachment Manager for the Democrat-controlled House. Which is what he's done. JAN CRAWFORD: Mr. Attorney General, thank you very much for sitting down with us. So, obviously we saw the special counsel yesterday make that statement, he analyzed 11 instances where there were possible obstruction and then said that he really couldn't make a decision- conclusion on whether or not the president had in fact committed obstruction because of the existing OLC opinion in the legal counsel's office. Do you agree with that interpretation that that legal opinion prevented him from making a conclusion? On Mueller's dereliction of duty to decide, and on Rod Rosenstein being "surprised" to learn that Mueller would punt on this question. A sharp-eyed friend points out that Rod Rosenstein was supposedly Mueller's boss and supervisor through this process, and yet was surprised by Mueller's decision not to decide. What the fuck was he doing for two years? Did Mueller not check in with him? Did Rosenstein never ask what the initial findings were? JAN CRAWFORD: Now you have testified that when you met with Mueller at the Justice Department, you had that meeting, that you were surprised that he told you then that he was not going to reach a conclusion on obstruction. The next few quotes have to do with the media/Democrat/Deep State attack on Barr for releasing a four-page summary in advance of the actual report. Many of us have suspected that Mueller's and Weismann's plan was to release the report in a form which could not be immediately released, and then fill the media void with selective leaks and their own "summaries" to craft the Narrative as Barr prepared the report. But Barr saw through that, and released his own summary of conclusions, and then worked like hell to get the report out quickly. The next few quotes support this theory -- because Barr asked Mueller to identify which parts of the report came from 6(e) grand jury material. Barr asked Mueller that so that he could quickly redact that stuff and then release the report in a day or two. But Mueller did not comply. They blew off this simple and reasonable request. Why? I speculate: Because if Barr had to search through every line of the report to check himself if an assertion or quote came from 6(e) grand jury material, that would slow him down in releasing the report -- giving Mueller/Weissmann all the time in the world to shape the Narrative, in absence of the report. It is incredible that Mueller ignored his actual boss in so simple a directive, and the question "Why?" must be answered. JAN CRAWFORD: You said that you had wanted to release the report in full, and you largely have with the grand jury material being, of course, the exception. The four-page summary that the leftwing is so upset about would not have been necessary, had Mueller delivered the report in a disclosable (or almost-disclosable) form. But Mueller refused.
WILLIAM BARR: Right, because I didn't think the body politic would allow us to go on radio silence for four weeks. I mean, people were camped outside my house and the department and every- there was all kinds of wild speculation going on. Former senior intelligence officials who were purporting to have it- or intimating that they had inside information were suggesting that the president and his family were going to be indicted and so forth-- Here's the part where Barr says specifically he asked Mueller "for weeks' to identify 6(e) material in the report, so that Barr could quickly scrub it and release the report in a very short time:
So you tell me: what's an alternate explanation to my speculation that this was done deliberately so that Weissmann and the 17 Angry Democrats could leak to the media during the deliberate multi-week news blackout on the report, and thereby shape the Narrative? On whether Mueller did not say Trump committed a crime only because of the OLC guidance against indicting a sitting president, and whether there is a "discrepancy" between Barr's and Mueller's statements about this: WILLIAM BARR: The so-called discrepancy was that I had, I had testified earlier that Bob had assured me that he had not reached a decision that there was a crime committed but was not willing to pursue it simply because of the OLC opinion and that remains the fact. That's what his position is. That's consistent with what he said yesterday. And it certainly is consistent with the joint release we put out. The confusion arose because what Bob Mueller's position was was that the OLC opinion coupled with other things as a prudential matter made him feel that he shouldn't even get into the analysis of whether something was a crime or not and that's a different question than --
JAN CRAWFORD: What is the fundamental difference? Why...I mean, he said he couldn't exonerate the president. That he had looked at the [evil -- garbled transcription, probably] there - these 11 instances of possible obstruction. He couldn't exonerate the president, if he could he would've stated so. You looked at that evidence and you did. I mean, what is the fundamental difference between your view and his? On whether the firing of the dainty prima donna and former Communist James Comey could be "obstruction of justice:" BARR: ... [L]et's take the again the firing of Comey. One of the elements is that you have to show that the act objectively speaking will have the probable effect of obstructing a proceeding and we don't believe that the firing of an agency head could be established as having the probable effect, objectively speaking, of sabotaging a proceeding. There was also we would have to prove corrupt intent, the report itself points out that one of the likely motivations here was the president's frustration with Comey saying something publicly and saying a different thing privately and refusing to correct the record. So that would not have been a corrupt intent. So for each of these episodes we thought long and hard about it, we looked at the facts and we didn't feel the government could establish obstruction in these cases.
But his non-answer sounds a lot like he's very bothered by this:
On whether he can be trusted to handle classified information and trusted to declassify only that which would not harm the American interest:
JAN CRAWFORD: So when we are talking about the kind of the-- well you have used the word spy. You have testified that you believe spying occurred. This is super-interesting -- on whether foreign interference, or inteference by the US's own Deep State, is more troubling for democracy: JAN CRAWFORD: ...interference versus say a government abuse of power, which is more troubling? This continues in the next section. Interesting fact here -- Barr used to be in the CIA, at least as an intern. He points out that it's very strange that the liberal establishment is now saying "YOLO" about the various safeguards which had been erected to keep the government from using FBI and CIA assets to spy on American political organizations and parties: JAN CRAWFORD: --this. So again, just to go, just so that I think so people can more fully understand this, I mean have you, and I know it's early in the investigation, but when we are talking about the basis for this and why you think it is important and obviously any kind of government abuse of power, I mean, you were in the CIA in the '70s. You can see how that can have.... Did he mean the media is blowing it off? As he makes clear, yes, indeed, he's talking about the media. This section occurs in a different part of the interview, but he brings it around to the media, so I'll put it here: JAN CRAWFORD: But it seems like you have a concern that there may have been a bias by top officials in the FBI as they looked at whether to launch and conduct this investigation? Then he gets again to the media's complete lack of interest -- hostility towards the question, in fact -- about whether the US government targeted a rival political campaign for spying: JAN CRAWFORD: I know you've seen some of the criticism and the push back on- on this. Do you have any concerns that doing this investigation, talking about de-classifying certain materials- that that's undermining your credibility or the credibility of the department? On whether he agrees with Trump's characterization the Deep State conspiracy as "treason:"
And more on "the guardians." He notes that whether the probe was legitimate or not depends on whether the underlying evidence for it was strong or weak, and characterizes it as very weak -- in fact, "bogus." JAN CRAWFORD: You- I guess when you said that there were things done that were not the typical run of business, ad hoc, small group, it's not how these counterintelligence operations normally work. I think that maybe Comey and others might say well this was such an extraordinary thing we had to keep it so closely held. So we had to do it differently what's your response to that? Is that legit? This little bit explains why Huber has been so silent -- apparently he chose to sideline himself while an independent IG investigation looked into the same matter. This makes no sense to me, given that the IG can only ask questions of current Federal employees while a prosecutor can compel testimony from ex- government officials, and can actually charge people with crimes whereas an IG can only recommend prosecution and recommend professional discipline, but oh well, I guess Huber's been twiddling his thumbs:
JAN CRAWFORD: Um, what's the status of Huber's investigation in Utah? I think the former Attorney General Sessions had asked him to look at this.
JAN CRAWFORD: But when you came into this job, you were kind of, it's like the US Attorney in Connecticut, I mean, you had a good reputation on the right and on the left. You were a man with a good reputation. You are not someone who is, you know, accused of protecting the president, enabling the president, lying to Congress. Did you expect that coming in? And what is your response to it? How do you? What's your response to that? On his reputation and the damage the left is doing to it, part two: JAN CRAWFORD: When you see some of the criticism and you've gotten quite a bit of it that you're protecting the president that you're enabling the president, what's your response to that? On his reputation being savaged by his critics (on the left and in the media, but I repeat myself), part three, and about being too old to give any fucks: JAN CRAWFORD: Does it, I mean, it's the reputation that you have worked your whole life on though? Love that. | Recent Comments
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