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July 18, 2016

Insurrection at the RNC?

The majorities of the delegations of seven states are required for roll call vote of the delegates on the rules.

That averts a cheat we've seen before -- where the guy at the podium calls for a voice vote and then says "The Nays have it" even if the ayes clearly had it.

The challenge to the rules has the support of eleven states' majorities. There should, then, be a role-call vote.

Reports are that the secretary they're supposed to deliver the signatures to (the signatures of the eleven states looking for a role-call vote) is hiding so that the signatures can't be delivered to him/her.

The challenges to the rules would have two big effects: 1, delegates would be unbound, but also 2, it would reject the consolidation of power in a whole host of areas in the RNC and Reince Priebus. Last Thursday or Friday, Mike Lee and like-minded delegates were very animated about stopping this attempted centralization of power in party apparatchick's hands.

Right now it's unclear what the outcome will be. Whip operations are underway to convince delegates to un-sign the petition and stop this from going to a roll call floor vote.

Annnnddd... this being the corrupt Republican Party you've learned to loathe, they ignored the fact that the signatures to force a role-call vote were present, and just held the voice vote, and immediately claimed "the ayes have it."

Mike Lee is attempting to protest, calling out "Point of order! Point of order!," so they, get this, just turned off his microphone.

The delegates are chanting "Role call vote." Look, if you really think the ayes have it, what is the problem with a role call vote? You only go to these measures to avoid a role call vote when you're pretty sure you'd lose a real vote.

Bullshit: Now they're trying to mollify people with a de novo voice vote -- once again, refusing to do an actual roll call vote, which they obviously know they'd lose.

Explanation: The chair is now claiming that while they received nine delegations' asking for a roll-call vote, three then withdrew their petitions, leaving it short of the seven needed. (Paul Ryan was among those whipping to stop the roll call vote, as he saw it as an encroachment on his almighty authority.)

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posted by Ace at 04:05 PM

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