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I will say this for Mavs (I always say this): On those occasions when he finally comes down on your side, it's with great force and impact.
Krauthammer had this dynamite point: In a certain sense, it doesn't matter if Obama said this, because we know it's true either way. If he didn't say it, then all he did was succeed in preventing himself from uttering his true agenda in a naked fashion.
But either way, that is his agenda. He says so: He says he can't secure the border unless it's part of a "comprehensive" package. He just doesn't put it as nakedly as Kyl says he did in a private discussion.
However, it actually does matter if it was said -- because this puts the entire corrupt hostage-situation before the public. It makes it news, in other words, instead of policy analysis, which most people don't bother with.
Note especially the woman who gasps, loudly, when Kyl informs her of Obama's plan to hold our security hostage until he gets a little somethin'-somethin' for his... constituents? Are illegal aliens constituents?
I guess more so than the Ecaudorans he first informed he was suing Arizona.
And why did she gasp? She was just informed that the President is making a conscious decision to put her life in danger until he can get his hands on some political deliverables for a constituency that is at least significantly not even American citizens.