Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com


Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups






















« Mystery in L.A. | Main | Five Years Ago Today - [Cuffy Meigs] »
December 13, 2008

A Brief History of Waterboarding (genghis)

Update: Might as well be an overnight thread as well, now that Gabe's on the run from the Mexican Mafia. Treat yourselves to a flame war as well. It's overdue...haven't had one since before the election. It's a free for all. When I wake up, I expect to see no less than 500 comments, but hopefully less than half will be from WickedPinto.


(As presented by Newsweek authors Mike Isikoff and Mark Hosenball. I dare you not to to make fun of that last name…or the sporty ‘stache he has.)

The title of the piece is ”Breaking the Will.” Straightforward, but a few choice quotes:

:”The Senate Armed Services report concludes that waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques—including forcing detainees to stand naked, subjecting them to growling dogs and depriving them of sleep—were discussed by top members of the National Security Council and other senior administration officials inside the White House. Some officials expressed strong concerns about the legality of the methods. But the techniques were ultimately given the green light, based on government assessments that showed such methods were quick and effective in breaking down the resistance of U.S. military officers who were subjected to them in so-called Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape (SERE) classes.”

Stand naked and be subjected to growling dogs? Some people pay good money for that experience. Also reminds me of a very memorable scene from the movie “Caligula” (the Penthouse one), but no need to go there.

Newsweek’s definition of waterboarding:

”Waterboarding is a method of simulated drowning that involves strapping down a subject and pouring water into his nose and mouth. As the subject gasps for breath, the water enters his lungs, inducing extreme panic within minutes. These and other SERE techniques were developed from methods used by Chinese Communists against American soldiers during the Korean War. At the time, the United States denounced the Chinese for violating the Geneva Conventions and international law.

Maybe I’m confused (and if I am I’ll retract or update), but if water enters your lungs, aren’t you actually drowning? As opposed to simulated drowning? Honestly, I don’t know exactly how it works. KSM apparently lasted 3 or more minutes under the practice and he didn’t exactly look like a member of the varsity swimming team. (more like a cross between Al Sharpton and Bluto) If you do…school us. And if water is entering your lungs, would panic ensue within minutes? How 'bout immediately?


Artists depiction of waterboarding

Tagged on: "Fresh Air" notes, in the comments, the Christopher Hitchens article in Vanity Fair where he underwent his own waterboarding. It's a little whiny, and I suppose some water vapor might actually enter your lungs. But then again, it does so on any given misty day. The Newsweek article gives the impression you've been intubated (see, I watch ER...'cept it sucks now) with a firehose fully open. Not so much though...it's more like a wet washcloth over your mouth, but the panic probably mostly results from the fact that you're on your back, tilted on your "waterboard" head down, blindfolded and in the presence of people who will fuck you up at a moment's notice. And according to Hitch, listening to bad Eurodisco. That'd break anyone right there. The wet cloth over your face is just the cherry on top.

(Sorry to push down your post on the shot-up Bentley, Gabe. You were wearing gloves when you did that…weren’t you? You might want to hide out for a bit until we can raise the funds to extricate you from the country. You like Mexican food, no? Not claustrophobic I hope…it’ll be a tight squeeze for you in that little welded box we have beneath the ’78 Chevy conversion van we’re taking you across the border in.)


digg this
posted by xgenghisx at 01:33 AM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
JackStraw: ">>Yeah, right AfD wants safety and security for it ..."

grammie winger - cheesehead: "He wasn't a Muslim, then? Just a guy who liked to ..."

fd: "Mostly peaceful Muslim. Mostly. ..."

FenelonSpoke: "He wasn't a Muslim, then? Just a guy who liked to ..."

FenelonSpoke: "Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at ..."

Gary Cooper: "Timeanddate is very good, you can put your exact l ..."

Ciampino - Except exceptionally exempting exhalted examples: "The NZ launch reminds me that on last night's ONT ..."

publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb): " The German elite want to ban the AfD party. Th ..."

Mary Jane Rottencrotch: ">>My ass smells like my ass. Meh.. ..."

grammie winger - cheesehead: "Apparently the Christmas Market murderer was a Sau ..."

publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb): " "Noon" comes from Latin. The Romans originally ..."

Ciampino - Except exceptionally exempting exhalted examples: "139 Not the best employees will never be found on ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64